Aid comes to Romney form the left.

[UtahDan]

Liberal columnist Richard Cohen says that it is Huckabee that has some explaining to do, not Romney. I agree almost entirely with his column. A couple of highlights:

It is absurd that Romney feels compelled to deliver a speech defending his beliefs and that Huckabee does not have to explain how, in this day and age, he does not believe in evolution.

and

But when it comes to being beholden to a religious doctrine, it is Huckabee and not Romney who has some explaining to do. What's more, Huckabee is the one who is capitalizing on religious intolerance. He says he's a Christian leader, but the evidence proves otherwise. He's really a shameless follower.

Nicely done Cohen.

[MikeWaters]

when will Mormons start realizing that is the left that will accept them as decent human beings, and not the right?

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

when will Mormons start realizing that is the left that will accept them as decent human beings, and not the right?

Neither side has a great track record of tolerance.

Right: http://www.liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=2931

Left: http://www.slate.com/id/2155902/

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Neither side has a great track record of tolerance.

Right: http://www.liveprayer.com/ddarchive3.cfm?id=2931

Left: http://www.slate.com/id/2155902/

I disagree with this. We've been over this. Weisberg was not being intolerant. Intolerance is like saying I'm a Christian and you should only want a Christian president because everyone else is against God.

In a recent NYT interview still online Ian McEwan captured well what any sensible person would say in Weisberg's defense: "ll religions make very big claims about the world, and it should be possible in an open society to dispute them. It should be possible to say, 'I find some ideas in Islam questionable” without being called a racist."

Religions ought to be as subject to inquiry and critique on this ground as any ideology. They don't hold a special status, at least not anymore.

Weisberg is actually concerned about Romney's intolerance.

[SeattleUte]

YOhio, surely you see a qualitative difference between those two links you posted.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I disagree with this. We've been over this. Weisberg was not being intolerant. Intolerance is like saying I'm a Christian and you should only want a Christian president because everyone else is against God.

In a recent NYT interview still online Ian McEwan captured well what any sensible person would say in Weisberg's defense: "ll religions make very big claims about the world, and it should be possible in an open society to dispute them. It should be possible to say, 'I find some ideas in Islam questionable” without being called a racist."

Religions ought to be as subject to inquiry and critique on this ground as any ideology. They don't hold a special status, at least not anymore.

Weisberg is actually concerned about Romney's intolerance.

Okay he's being intolerant in the sense that he says no Mormon for president. But it's not bigotry, that's my point.

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

YOhio, surely you see a qualitative difference between those two links you posted.

Sure, one is a leftist cultural elite and the other is a rightwing nutjob preacher. But there is a commonality between the two and that is that neither will vote for Mitt Romney because he is Mormon. One of them just used a lot more fancy words to justify the decision.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

when will Mormons start realizing that is the left that will accept them as decent human beings, and not the right?

LOL. Both sides won't accept us.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

when will Mormons start realizing that is the left that will accept them as decent human beings, and not the right?

It is not a question of the right accepting us (they have), it is a question of evangelicals and Southern Baptists accepting us (they never will). There is intersection there, but they are not synonymous. Also, you think that Mormons are going to accept the left?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

It is not a question of the right accepting us (they have), it is a question of evangelicals and Southern Baptists accepting us (they never will). There is intersection there, but they are not synonymous. Also, you think that Mormons are going to accept the left?

What differentiates the average Baptist voter from the average Mormon voter, on the issues?

Help me think of something.

Queer bedfellows.