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Old 04-10-2008, 04:09 PM   #1
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Default And this is why I don't like McCain

Just when I think I've heard enough pansy talk from Obama and Hillary to move to McCain's defense, he goes and does something like this:

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McCain will unveil plan to help homeowners who have 'burdensome' mortgages

During a business roundtable today in Brooklyn, Republican presidential candidate John McCain will propose what he calls a HOME plan that would give "every deserving American family or homeowner the opportunity to trade a burdensome mortgage for a manageable loan that reflects the market value of their home."
As one reader on the Corner said: "I have a plan for people with burdensome mortgages: Sell the house and move into something you can afford."

Amen.

The nanny state is upon us.
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:56 PM   #2
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Just when I think I've heard enough pansy talk from Obama and Hillary to move to McCain's defense, he goes and does something like this:



As one reader on the Corner said: "I have a plan for people with burdensome mortgages: Sell the house and move into something you can afford."

Amen.

The nanny state is upon us.
I don't see how he can call himself a Reagan conservative with a straight face.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:29 PM   #3
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I don't see how he can call himself a Reagan conservative with a straight face.
Nor do I.

Perhaps he's counting on the general masses not knowing what a Reagan conservative really is.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:31 PM   #4
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You guys are funny with your sacred reverence for being a "Reagan conservative". I was a Reagan conservative in 1980 when it was wise to be a Reagan conservative. The condition of the country and the world is much different 28 years later. In 1980 we needed Reagan trickle down economic policies. That they were once right, does not mean they are going to always be right.

You decided over 20 years ago you liked Reaganesque policies. You have stopped thinking since then.

Look at the rise in the cost of healthcare. Look at the rise in the cost of health insurance. Look at the rise in the cost of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. Look at the explosion in the number of people over age 70. Look at the rise of the European Union and China as economic forces.

Don't take it personally guys, but only a fool thinks that the Reagan policies from 1980 are the answer to our problems in 2008. It is a different world which will require different policies to navigate.
That post was a complete nonsequitur, not to mention wholly unclear how Reagan economics applied to anything you just mentioned.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:42 PM   #5
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Adam, How old were you in 1980?
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Adam, How old were you in 1980?
I think he was about 5.
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I like this thread. We need to do a book of the month and all read Jennifer Government. Great parable about a world where capitalism is played out to its logical extreme. Not preachy and very thought provoking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:34 PM   #8
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You guys are funny with your sacred reverence for being a "Reagan conservative". I was a Reagan conservative in 1980 when it was wise to be a Reagan conservative. The condition of the country and the world is much different 28 years later. In 1980 we needed Reagan trickle down economic policies. That they were once right, does not mean they are going to always be right.

You decided over 20 years ago you liked Reaganesque policies. You have stopped thinking since then.

Look at the rise in the cost of healthcare. Look at the rise in the cost of health insurance. Look at the rise in the cost of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid. Look at the explosion in the number of people over age 70. Look at the rise of the European Union and China as economic forces.

Don't take it personally guys, but only a fool thinks that the Reagan policies from 1980 are the answer to our problems in 2008. It is a different world which will require different policies to navigate.
Can you imagine for one moment that some of those events might have resulted from a failure to stick to conservative principles?

You're a great advocate for Obama but you've also either completely immersed yourself in the cause of supporting, ignoring his warts a la Cali, or just don't care about the cost of his programs, figuring you'll be long dead when it's time to pay for them.

Obama is a candidate about you should be more cynical. I don't see the healthy cynicism in things you support. Cynicism about one's own pet projects is also very healthy.
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Old 07-17-2008, 11:47 PM   #9
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I was a Reagan conservative in 1980 when it was wise to be a Reagan conservative.

I was 10 in 1980 and I'm pretty sure I'm older than you.
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I was 10 in 1980 and I'm pretty sure I'm older than you.
You mean I'm older than you?
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