So how do Bush supporters feel about the information contained in the released memos? - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

Cali Coug · 03-03-2009, 03:37 AM

Statements to the effect that the President may suspend basically any constitutional right he wants during the "war on terror?" I would hope those of you who claim such fidelity to the 2nd Amendment would be equally horrified by what is a clear assault on the entire Bill of Rights.

MikeWaters · 03-03-2009, 04:00 AM

I am betting Obama has drafted something saying the same thing.

Just like he and Panetta have said that they reserve the right to use torture, despite the fact that they never will. Yeah........right.

Cali Coug · 03-03-2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I am betting Obama has drafted something saying the same thing.

Just like he and Panetta have said that they reserve the right to use torture, despite the fact that they never will. Yeah........right.

Obama has ordered the military and the CIA to cease any "enhanced interrogations." He ordered that they comply with the Army Field Manual. He nominated an AG who made it clear that waterboarding is beyond the limits of what the US will permit. So while the executive order does provide that the AG may provide additional guidance that would permit some deviation from the Field Manual, this is hardly a ratification of torture, and the ethics investigations being conducted by Holder at Obama's order on those who wrote memos at the DOJ permitting torture sends a very strong signal that torture isn't going to be tolerated.

All-American · 03-03-2009, 04:55 AM

Mike, you may be interested to know that a certain member of the Utah State Senate has a flag with your avatar hanging in his office as of about two weeks ago. Care to guess who?

And good for Obama for at least saying it.

Archaea · 03-03-2009, 06:26 AM

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Mike, you may be interested to know that a certain member of the Utah State Senate has a flag with your avatar hanging in his office as of about two weeks ago. Care to guess who?

And good for Obama for at least saying it.

It's the politically correct thing to say, color me unimpressed.

Tex · 03-03-2009, 06:08 PM

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Mike, you may be interested to know that a certain member of the Utah State Senate has a flag with your avatar hanging in his office as of about two weeks ago. Care to guess who?

And good for Obama for at least saying it.

Lebowski's Law: As a CG discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Chris Buttars approaches one.

All-American · 03-04-2009, 02:26 PM

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Lebowski's Law: As a CG discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Chris Buttars approaches one.

Has nothing to do with either the thread or the length thereof. Just an aside.

Tex · 03-04-2009, 08:09 PM

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Has nothing to do with either the thread or the length thereof. Just an aside.

Sounds like something Chris Buttars would say.

All-American · 03-05-2009, 03:41 AM

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Sounds like something Chris Buttars would say.

in what sense, praytell, does it sound like something buttars would say?

Tex · 03-05-2009, 03:58 AM

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in what sense, praytell, does it sound like something buttars would say?

It was a joke, AA. By making the comparison, I satisfy my own made-up law .... oh, nevermind.

Truth be told, I have no idea who Chris Buttars is, other than he is some Utah government guy, and that Lebowski likes to invoke him a lot when he wants to "zing" somebody.

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Cali Coug Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,996	So how do Bush supporters feel about the information contained in the released memos? Statements to the effect that the President may suspend basically any constitutional right he wants during the "war on terror?" I would hope those of you who claim such fidelity to the 2nd Amendment would be equally horrified by what is a clear assault on the entire Bill of Rights.

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MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I am betting Obama has drafted something saying the same thing. Just like he and Panetta have said that they reserve the right to use torture, despite the fact that they never will. Yeah........right.