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Old 12-13-2006, 11:33 PM   #1
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Default No sex outside of the Celestial Kingdom?

Why not?
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:43 PM   #2
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:49 PM   #3
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I suppose that's one reason.

What about the physiological reason? Will those outside the CK all be like Barbie and Ken dolls?
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:21 AM   #4
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I'm not sure I buy this particular tidbit of Mormon speculative doctrine.

The terms "Eternal lives" and "eternal increase" are commonly defined in Mormonism to mean "having children after the resurrection". I'm not sure I really even buy that definition; however, assuming that definition is true, the assumption that the mechansim whereby one has children with a resurrected body is the same as the mechanism whereby one has children with an earthly body could very well be a faulty assumption.

We're having sex now (well, at least some of us are) and we're certainly outside of the Celestial kingdom. According to D&C 76:89, the glory of the Telestial Kingdom "surpasses all understanding". I find it hard to believe that in a place whose glory "surpasses all understanding" we wouldn't be able to experience something at least as glorious as our currently glorious earthly sex.
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So that means, your vision of the telestial and/or terrestrial kingdom is: glorious sex, but no kids, and no responsibility for creating worlds and stuff. What's the downside?
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So that means, your vision of the telestial and/or terrestrial kingdom is: glorious sex, but no kids, and no responsibility for creating worlds and stuff. What's the downside?
That's a good question - what are you going to be doing in the telestial and/or terrestrial kingdom anyway if you aren't having sex? Sex or no sex - trying to speculate what the afterlife will be like doesn't make any sense either way.

I'm not trying to be intentionally obtuse here, but why does there have to even be a downside?

We know very little about what will be happening in the Celestial kingdom and we know even less about what it will be like in the non-Celestial kingdoms. Thus, the honest answer to the question of what will be happening in the non-Celestial kingdoms is simply "we don't know". That's why I don't necessarily buy that little tidbit of doctrinal speculation that many other Mormons commonly believe.
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trying to speculate what the afterlife will be like doesn't make any sense either way.
Yeah, this has been a tough one at our house this week.

Our dog got hit by a car on Sunday. We buried her in the yard. Of course this brought on the inevitable question from our 7-year-old: Is Blackie (the kids named her) in heaven?

You know...what do you do? Do you go with the grown-up answer or just tell the kid what he wants to hear?

So, Michael thinks Blackie is in heaven, and we decided not to argue with him.
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Old 12-14-2006, 01:58 AM   #8
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I figure if I can't really grasp eternity, and I can't and I don't think it is really possible for a mortal mind to grasp it (how's that for arrogance?), then there is not much point in wondering what I am going to do in eternity or what I will enjoy. It is entirely possible, in my mind, that some of the things that give us pleasure here will be seen as immature relics of our prior existence, as opposed to being improved upon or employed with exaggerated effect. In other words, to use an analaogy, we won't just get bigger roller coasters, we'll get something else altogether and will look at roller coasters as a bit silly. What is the something else? Who knows.
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Even if the there's sex in the celestial kingdom, I'm guessing most of the people there won't be doing it very well. I'm sure all the afterlife sex manuals will be written by people in the telestial kingdom.
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Even if the there's sex in the celestial kingdom, I'm guessing most of the people there won't be doing it very well. I'm sure all the afterlife sex manuals will be written by people in the telestial kingdom.
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