The biggest problem with the healthcare reform

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

You may want to refresh your memory as to why there was no conference committee (it had nothing to do with Pelosi). Republican Senators were placing holds on conference committee appointments making it impossible for the committee to ever form. Weren't you saying something about "naked partisanship" earlier?

Not impossible, just difficult. But that's again a distraction ... so they hold "informal" conference committees instead. They still held them in secret, and Pelosi still bears the responsibility of shoehorning her members into place. She didn't, and it's not the Senate's fault.

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

So you say, again without any evidence.

Patience, grasshopper.

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Here's another link proposing what I described for health care, by the way:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...eeks-on-Reform

Wow, that is one hilarious read.

"But that effort fizzled when support for it didn’t materialize, insiders said."

Gee, wonder why. Must be those crazy stupid senators more afraid of the media than the "zero" evidence that the electorate hates this bill!

And this:

The Senate is not only a broken institution, it's threatening to break the whole legislative system by completely poisoning the relationship between the two chambers.

Ha! I remember when the Senate had constantly stymied Bush bills and/or nominees, and it was lauded by these same people. The filibuster was so sacrosanct we had Robert Byrd emerge with his "Gang of 14" declaring that they had "saved the Republic"! And now it's a broken institution? Give me a break.

And then this gem:

Democratic Senators need to hear from their constituents that we expect at least as much out of them as we do our representatives in the House. That means they do the job that we elected them to do. We don't have 100 kings.

Apparently it hasn't occurred to this genius that these Senators have heard from their constituents. And they're saying: "Stop this bill!"

Good stuff, Cali. I really should read Kos more, and you really should read it less.