Natural rights v government granted rights

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

You make quantum leaps.

Due process is a process, a right under our contract with ourselves. It is NOT an inherent right in all relationships. It isn't derived from government but by virtue of the contract of our forefathers. Outsiders do not inherit this right.

Privileges are driver's licenses.

Saying it is a "right under our contract with ourselves" is the same thing as saying it is a right that flows from government (which is our contract with ourselves).

I never argued due process was a "right in all relationships." I did argue it was a natural right we have that must be observed before other natural rights (such as life, liberty and property) may be infringed upon. Without due process, the other natural rights are no more than a "privilege." All natural rights are inetricably connected to the natural right of due process. Comparing it to a driver's license is absurd.