04-15-2008, 10:03 PM | #31 | |
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The gospel I believe in is faith, repentance, baptism, gift of HG. I don't go much deeper than that, but I believe there is a depth in those doctrines that far surpasses what many consider the deep doctrines of the gospel. I believe there is a remission of sins through baptism and GoHG, which is a process that starts with faith and repentance. I also believe this is a process which we continually cycle through, with sacrament serving proxy as the ordinances. So it's not that it's done once as an 8 yo and it's done. |
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Adam is a pretentious dick. We all know that. However, there was nothing in his posts in this thread that demonstrated that. He never said whether or not others are wrong in their own conclusions on what the scriptures mean. He stated an opinion but because his conjecture seems different to you than Elder Bednar's conjecture he is on the road to apostacy. This is my conjecture. He is right. I believe baptism has power, but what matters is your heart and will. It is whether God's will is your will that will dictate the efficacy of your baptism since God has no concept of time, it mattereth not if the baptism happened long before, as we mortals track time, or has yet to happen at all. I also believe boobs are in.
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You are in error, kind sir.
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04-16-2008, 01:51 PM | #36 | |
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To me it is equivalent of someone telling me they got better grades than I did and therefor I should listen to them. I will admit there are a few things I do think shows arrogance beyond belief. One of them is supposing you are righteous enough to spot someone who is on the road to apostacy from anonymous posts they make. That is why I got mad enough to put Johnny on ignore for a while over on CB for this post. http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=2607425 Seems Johnny thinks he might be an expert on spotting members on the road to apostacy. |
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Except of course, for you, right Spaz? It cracks me up that this has become the phrase you have to utter to justify their being here day after day.
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04-16-2008, 04:25 PM | #38 | |
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Have I 'uttered' that particular phrase frequently in the past? I can't recall that I have. I would hope that any other utterances of said phrase were just as much in jest as this one was. BTW - did I piss you off somewhere that I'm not aware of?
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04-16-2008, 04:35 PM | #39 | |
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IMO, without that 'signature' of the ordinance, the personal conversion won't do enough to save you. I'd describe it more like this: -The pre-baptism hoopla (the talks, the prayers, etc.) are akin to the pre-signing hoopla at a peace-treaty signing (think the Russian doll-dance in 'The Man who Knew too Little'). -The actual baptism ordinance is akin to the actual signing of the peace treaty. To me, the fact that we do vicarious work in the temples is proof of the importance of the ordinances themselves. That said, I agree that there may be additional purposes behind the work, and that the work may not be as necessary as it appears on the surface.
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