09-22-2008, 12:49 AM | #21 |
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Bingo, and the consolation prizes in those conferences is better than our conferences grand prize. This is a no brainer.
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Now if you want to look at just this year specifically, I'd say you'd be better off in the Pac-10 or the Big 10, where you could lose a game (not unlikely -- everybody has an off day) and still go to the Rose Bowl. Big 12 may be tough this year, hard to say. And I wouldn't wish the SEC regular season on anybody. |
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Again, everyone listen closely. Our top bowl is weak and our conference games are boring--for those reasons alone, I'd rather be in a BCS conference. I just think the road to a BCS game is easier where we are. Not a lot easier, and I completely respect those who disagree, but just a little easier. |
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All those who think it's still easier to get into a BCS game as a member of the MWC are either forgetting that the powers that be don't want our teams there, or are in denial about it.
Remember, non-BCS teams have to jump through all the hoops required and hope that BCS teams falter. It's always easier to get into a BCS game as a member of a BCS conference. A second place finisher in a BCS conference will get the nod over the champion of the MWC, WAC, etc. I just don't trust the BCS to do the right thing.
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IMO, BYU and Utah are the class of the non-BCS over the long term. Boise State has the system and coaching staff in place to compete right now, but once Chris Peterson is gone you'd have to wonder about their long term prospects. BYU can certainly go undefeated this year and they have the horses in place to go undefeated next year. Like Boise State, if BYU keeps the current staff then BYU can be right there every other year. Unlike Boise State, BYU has better recruiting prospects over the long term and hopefully always have some LDS coach that wants to come to BYU. With the current BCS rules, there's no reason why BYU can't expect to get into the top 12 every three years or so as long as Bronco Mendenhall stays at BYU. I also think that with one BCS bowl appearance and a respectable showing, that BYU can even get into the top 12 with one loss. Hell, last year BYU probably would have been in the top 12 with one loss and probably ahead of Hawaii. The rest of the non-BCS is so incredibly weak that BYU doesn't need to worry about other non-BCS teams leapfrogging them as long as BYU takes care of business- and I'm not talking about going undefeated, a one loss BYU team has a credible shot a lot of years. With that being said, inclusion into a BCS conference doesn't solve all of BYU's recruiting problems. BYU is still a mormon school, still has the honor code and is still located in Provo. BYU's recruiting prospects certainly improve, but do they improve to the point where BYU could compete for #2 in the Pac-10 consistently with Oregon, Cal, Dennis Erickson as coach at ASU, Neuheisel at UCLA, and with UW after they bring in whomever after Willingham is fired (maybe Kiffin or Jim Mora, Jr.). After Erickson and Neuheisel get established, you'd have to assume that ASU and UCLA will be tough. I think conferences get weak due to coaching instability and the Pac-10 is not in good shape due to the recent changes at ASU and UCLA and UW having a crappy coach right now. Last edited by Travis Henry; 09-22-2008 at 06:37 PM. |
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Simply put, it doesn't matter what happens in the other conferences if BYU or Utah goes undefeated- BYU or Utah will get a spot in a BCS game. There's no way that BYU or Utah isn't in the top 12 at the end of the year if either goes undefeated. Even if BYU and Utah both falter, Boise State will quite possibly run the table and be in the top 12 themselves. They play Hawaii and Fresno in Boise- they only have one losable road game and that's Southern Miss. I would venture to say that a one loss MWC team might still have a shot at a BCS game if it weren't for Boise State being a possible fly in the ointment this year. Just imagine if BYU had only one loss last year, BYU would have very possibly been in the top 12 and possibly ahead of undefeated Hawaii. In summary, since the MWC is the best non-BCS conference and because BYU and Utah are the class of the MWC, Utah and BYU both have pretty good shots at BCS games given the current rules. |
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Well, I still don't trust the BCS to do what's right for college football.
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09-22-2008, 08:08 PM | #30 |
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I think it's pretty obvious what's easier. Look at how many MWC teams in the last 10 years have gone unbeaten (which is what it takes). ONE.
Compare that to the number of teams in BCS conferences getting into the BCS with a one- or two-loss team. If you've got a very good, bcs-worthy team (like BYU & Utah both have this year), you've got to like your chances where you have a mulligan or two better than when you have NO room for error at all.
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