When Thomas Monson dies, it will mark the end of an era

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

You can't remember a single talk by Oaks, Faust, Packer, and Scott?

"Speaks volumes."

I remember that Packer told a story about a girl thinking the prophet was no better than her grandpa.

I remember it for two reasons: 1) it is a story. 2) Adam kept reminding us about it.

I can't remember most talks I have heard in Sacrament Mtg either. Very few of them are memorable.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by jay santos

meat = pornography?

Get your mind outta the gutter.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Adam

Packer and Scott and Oaks and Faust and many others would disagree with you and Monson.

Which is OK. We need all kinds. I am not saying there should be no Monson fluff pieces. I think they are probably just what some members need. I am just saying they are not for me and I find it hard to suffer them gracefully. This is my problem, not Monson's.

So with Monson as the likely next President, it will be harder to ignore his talks and I'll be compelled to listen more closely. I hope he steps up his substance. That is all. Maybe he won't. Maybe the members who bask in the heart-gladdening glow of his stories and poetry are to be fed for a season while I shiver in my pew. If that is what the Church needs, so be it. I'll love Pres. Monson, just not his talks, and I'll look forward to hearing the next Apostle speak.

Fair enough.

I guess because of the age of my kids, I really like the Apostles like Monson who can keep their attention. It works for me as well, as I believe there is something genius about simplicity.

[ute4ever]

Thomas S. Monson: "I remember I ate my first Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup when I was a tender lad of eight. My mother came up to me, and with a loving twinkle in her eye, asked, 'Tommy, are you eating a Reese's?' And I would invariably smile up to her, 'Yes, yes, I am.' 'But Tommy, did you know that Sister Jensen next door hasn’t eaten a Reese’s Cup in years?' My young mind thought upon the plight of my neighbor. Tears were shed. Hearts were gladdened. A cup was shared."

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Adam

I never took you for a Monson story guy. I thought you would be a Maxwell doctrine guy.

This proves my point--it takes all kinds of Apostles to speak to all kinds of members. We don't have to like all their styles to get to heaven.

Maxwell? Boring. Can't remember a thing.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Thomas S. Monson: "I remember I ate my first Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup when I was a tender lad of eight. My mother came up to me, and with a loving twinkle in her eye, asked, 'Tommy, are you eating a Reese's?' And I would invariably smile up to her, 'Yes, yes, I am.' 'But Tommy, did you know that Sister Jensen next door hasn’t eaten a Reese’s Cup in years?' My young mind thought upon the plight of my neighbor. Tears were shed. Hearts were gladdened. A cup was shared."

Very, very good.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Maxwell? Boring. Can't remember a thing.

May be the most underappreciated apostle of the last quarter century.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Tex

May be the most underappreciated apostle of the last quarter century.

Really. He has sold a ton of books. My brother loves him. I think he is great and enjoy his talks.

I will miss President Hinckleys talks. Especially the ones where he chastizes the mullahs in the church. I wonder if anyone will follow up and do that.

[Clark Addison]

Originally Posted by Adam

The term "for instance" denotes an example or a piece of evidence tending to prove the point being made. The point should not be reduced to only the one example given.

I know. Just messing around.

[splitbamboo]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Hinckley and Monson have been running the church for some 30 years. It's hard to imagine how much institutional knowledge will be lost when Monson passes away.

The McKay biography leads one to believe that there is a tremendous difference between being an apostle and being in the 1st presidency.

Growing up, it was the Monson talks that I always looked forward to. I look forward to seeing what Monson, with the mantle, has to say.

Btw, there is a satellite leadership broadcast in early Feb. I wonder if we will get an inkling then.

Maybe this is where we are headed with TSM (quoted from the Trib):

"In that capacity Monson took on ecumenical and welfare issues. He had many regular meetings with leaders of Utah's other faiths and developed friendships with then-Catholic Bishop George H. Niederauer and his predecessor in the Salt Lake Diocese, William K. Weigand.
Under Monson's direction, the LDS Church joined with other Christian, Jewish and Muslim groups in causes such as homeless shelters, food banks, nursing homes and disaster relief efforts in the United States and abroad.
"We don't ever meet on doctrinal ecumenism; it's strictly on the social side of the fabric of the community," Monson explained. "But I'm a great believer that by working together we eliminate the weakness of one standing alone and substitute the strength of many standing together."