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01-31-2008, 07:36 PM | #32 |
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We swerved into the melodramatic.
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01-31-2008, 07:40 PM | #33 |
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By the way, I love that Stapely letter to Mitt Romney's dad. I showed it to my father. He was stammering and mumbling in reply.
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01-31-2008, 07:43 PM | #35 |
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also, my dad told me that my grandparents didn't like Mitt's dad, because he was too liberal. Funny.
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01-31-2008, 07:43 PM | #36 |
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I think not addressing this is a huge PR nightmare. I don't know much about PR but what I know is this:
If you refuse to address a subject, the only voice heard, and therefore believed, is your opponents voice. By not addressing the folklore, the GAs are allowing the antis to define why the ban was in place. Huge mistake.
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01-31-2008, 07:44 PM | #37 |
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Its an ugly letter. I would like to think that we have come a long way since that letter (both rank and file and leadership). I know you think we need, as a people, to go further but don't you think the Stapley letter is pretty distant in the mirror in terms of attitudes?
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01-31-2008, 07:47 PM | #38 | |
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Mormons, on the other hand, have reacted by piling on. Look at the way LDS have treated fLDS. Look at the way LDS goes after gay groups. Look how Mormons vote for far-right conservatives seemingly en bloc. The idea that there is any kind of "awakening" or "enlightenment" among Mormons regarding race, and everything around race, is complete hogwash. |
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01-31-2008, 07:49 PM | #39 | |
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To make the argument linking this verse to the ban, one would also have to connect blacks with Cain. This particular folklore has been traced back to England (several centuries) and was developed as a justification for slavery.
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