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You're absolutely right, and this is the reason I don't get overly worked up over campaign statements to that effect.
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I don't like the interest rate freeze idea, or any kind of government bailout for that matter (which both Clinton and Obama support). I swear I'm getting that 100 days from somewhere. Maybe start withdrawals within 100 days? Even 16 months is unreasonable, and it looks as if Obama's already laid out his retreat path from his promise. His position isn't that different from Hillary's? Well, maybe not what he truly intends, but his promises are certainly different. Maybe you're right regarding the political specifics you outline. I'm admittedly not an expert at this kind of thing, and the argument was around electability. But again, you're glossing over the pastor Wright issue. This is not going to die. He was a freakin campaign advisor. Are you kidding me? And I can't even imagine how "typical white person" is going to played and replayed over the next seven months. |
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You are correct. His original goal was to begin withdrawal in the first 100 days and to have all combat troops removed from Iraq by the end of 2009. This was during the very beginning of his presidential campaign, in the spring of 2007. It was the central component of his campaign-stop rhetoric. I heard it in person. By later in the year, after military analysts said his original plan was not possible, he said his phased redeployment would take 16 months, minimum. Now he and Hillary both seem to avoid specifics in favor of a safer commitment to withdraw as quickly as is both feasible and prudent.
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The Wright issue was not helpful for Obama, but his poll numbers have INCREASED since then (in particular after his speech on race). If it had have come out a few weeks prior to the election in November, it would have been crippling. As of now, it was dealt with, and more people watch his race speech on Youtube than Wright's lunatic rants on Youtube. It isn't the issue Republicans want it to be, and McCain isn't in a position to make it an issue (what with Falwell's position on McCain's staff as an advisor, among others). I think prominent Republicans are promoting Clinton because they have arrived at precisely the same conclusion I have: Obama is far tougher for McCain in the general election. |
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JFK and Reagan's foreign policies do not match the kind of policies Obama has been talking about. Both are closer to McCain than Obama, so it's odd to me that he would espouse them.
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The Iraq war is being financed almost entirely on debt, so that will give him almost no additional revenue. Additionally, he's not going to withdraw nearly as quickly as promised--already discussed this. So we're left with: (1) raising taxes on the rich and those who invest in the economy during a recession and (2) getting better credit card deals to pay for a massive universal health care program. I get it. |
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Raising taxes is not a good thing. Raising capital gains taxes is a worse idea. Why discourage investment in the economy?
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