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Old 05-18-2008, 07:57 PM   #11
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It appears, like "socialism," I will need to refer you to the dictionary again.

Appeasement doesn't mean "talking to bad guys." The most applicable definition is:

"to yield or concede to the belligerent demands of (a nation, group, person, etc.) in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles."

Talking to a group isn't "yielding or conceding to the belligerent demands of a nation in a conciliatory effort. If he were to talk and then cave in to their demands, whatever they may be, THAT would be appeasement. If talking alone is appeasement, then Reagan was the Great Appeaser.
Like socialism, I know the definition of appeasement.

And when I mention socialist or appeaser when posting about Obama, there is nothing he has done to demonstrate I'm am incorrect.

You don't have to agree with my opinion.

As for Reagan, he talked to Gorby while he had nukes pointed at the Soviet Union and Gorbachev knew Reagan wasn't bluffing.
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:14 PM   #12
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Like socialism, I know the definition of appeasement.

And when I mention socialist or appeaser when posting about Obama, there is nothing he has done to demonstrate I'm am incorrect.

You don't have to agree with my opinion.

As for Reagan, he talked to Gorby while he had nukes pointed at the Soviet Union and Gorbachev knew Reagan wasn't bluffing.
Reagan talked to Gorby. By your definition, he is an appeaser. Not to mention the fact that you are starting off with a presumption that someone is an appeaser and requiring them to demonstrate they are not (fairly odd).
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:16 PM   #13
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Reagan talked to Gorby. By your definition, he is an appeaser. Not to mention the fact that you are starting off with a presumption that someone is an appeaser and requiring them to demonstrate they are not (fairly odd).
I'm calling Obama an appeaser based on what he'll do. He'll cave into the enemies demands, because that is what cowards do.

Reagan let Gorbachev know that the Soviet Union would get nuked to oblivion.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:04 PM   #14
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The rag on Obama is not that he wants to talk, but that he wants to talk without pre-conditions. That's code lingo for an appeaser. There's also this unspoken implication in the way Obama talks about it that he has this magical ability to placate our enemies, were they only to hear him speak.

It's no surprise that Cali finds this persuasive, since he himself has fallen under his mystical spell.
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:52 AM   #15
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The rag on Obama is not that he wants to talk, but that he wants to talk without pre-conditions. That's code lingo for an appeaser. There's also this unspoken implication in the way Obama talks about it that he has this magical ability to placate our enemies, were they only to hear him speak.

It's no surprise that Cali finds this persuasive, since he himself has fallen under his mystical spell.
In other words, he isn't an appeaser, you just think he might be some day. Understood.
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I'm calling Obama an appeaser based on what he'll do. He'll cave into the enemies demands, because that is what cowards do.

Reagan let Gorbachev know that the Soviet Union would get nuked to oblivion.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:16 AM   #17
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In other words, he isn't an appeaser, you just think he might be some day. Understood.
He advocates a policy of appeasement, call him what you wish.
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Look at these pics of the adoring crowd at today's rally in Oregon. 75K at a political rally!

McCain is going to get his arse handed to him in November.



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Look at these pics of the adoring crowd at today's rally in Oregon. 75K at a political rally!

McCain is going to get his arse handed to him in November.



Unreal. Don't sweat it, Tex- I am sure McCain has a big rally too.
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Unreal. Don't sweat it, Tex- I am sure McCain has a big rally too.
Maybe this year the Democrats will finally get a majority of the vote. First time since Jimmy Carter.
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