1970s Church Pamphlet on Homosexuality

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Sexuality of any type is all in a person's mind, so why should homosexuality be any different?

It's obvious the church often got/gets the details wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not a path that leads to exaltation.

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How many teenage Mormon boys with SSA are praying to God to remove this from them. Yet God will fail them and not remove it.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

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How many teenage Mormon boys with SSA are praying to God to remove this from them. Yet God will fail them and not remove it.

Would you care to pull out an older edition of the DSM-IV or whatever the equivalent was called 30 years ago and see what it had to say on homosexuality?

Thanks in advance.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Would you care to pull out an older edition of the DSM-IV or whatever the equivalent was called 30 years ago and see what it had to say on homosexuality?

Thanks in advance.

That's a dodge.

Many Mormon gay young men are tormented this very moment, and God will not answer their prayers to remove (what you call an impediment to exaltation) this SSA/homosexuality.

Don't you feel bad for them?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

That's a dodge.

Many Mormon gay young men are tormented this very moment, and God will not answer their prayers to remove (what you call an impediment to exaltation) this SSA/homosexuality.

Don't you feel bad for them?

Of course I feel bad for them. The urge isn't the impediment, it's acting on the urge.

[MikeWaters]

Given that pamphlet, it's easy to see why the greatest geopolitical issue for the Brethren is homosexuality.

It's not abortion, political oppression, fasicism, communism, totalitarianism, radical Islam, world hunger, disease, etc.

It's homosexuality. Because homosexuals will destroy the entire human race.

You see how these ideas percolate. For one generation, they are literally like unto a nuclear holocaust, these gays. For the next generation, gays will not destroy the world, but gay marriage will destroy the world.

Just like the belief that blacks are cursed, "fence-sitters", and spiritually inferior to one generation. To the next, they are "allowed" in the door, but don't marry them, that's wrong.

When my generation takes over, I suspect that views will be different on these two issues.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Given that pamphlet, it's easy to see why the greatest geopolitical issue for the Brethren is homosexuality.

It's not abortion, political oppression, fasicism, communism, totalitarianism, radical Islam, world hunger, disease, etc.

It's homosexuality. Because homosexuals will destroy the entire human race.

You see how these ideas percolate. For one generation, they are literally like unto a nuclear holocaust, these gays. For the next generation, gays will not destroy the world, but gay marriage will destroy the world.

Just like the belief that blacks are cursed, "fence-sitters", and spiritually inferior to one generation. To the next, they are "allowed" in the door, but don't marry them, that's wrong.

When my generation takes over, I suspect that views will be different on these two issues.

I weep for your generation because they're evidently too stupid to understand that the church doesn't say that marrying people of another race is "wrong".

[SoonerCoug]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Of course I feel bad for them. The urge isn't the impediment, it's acting on the urge.

Do you think you could have lived a celibate life?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MudphudCoug

Do you think you could have lived a celibate life?

I don't know about for 75 years, but I managed to for 24 years. My aunt did for 65 years until her death.

Since when does "easy" make any difference?

[SoonerCoug]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I don't know about for 75 years, but I managed to for 24 years.

Since when does "easy" make any difference?

You must be proud that you were celibate before puberty.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I don't know about for 75 years, but I managed to for 24 years.

Since when does "easy" make any difference?

But you knew there would be an end to that, and a gay person would know there is no end. Certainly some might be able to accomplish this, but I doubt it would be without emotional consequence.