07-28-2008, 04:32 PM | #11 |
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I can and did. I have a firm testimony of the church, and I love the gospel, despite some of the imperfections I believe exist in the church. I see no need to bring my calling into this discussion, as it isn't relevant to anyone but me.
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07-28-2008, 04:35 PM | #12 | |
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For example Bishop is different than Gospel Essentials teacher or Sunday School Secretary. Dang, I wish I could offer my resignation over this. I wish the Lord would put me in that position. Win-win for me. |
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"You won't find vindication in the areas where you are looking, SU." I don't distinguish between the "areas" to which I think you might be referring and the area that is the subject of this thread. I think they are of a single monolithic piece and I don't see how you cold see things otherwise.
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By the way, you carefully dodged the main crux of my post, which was a question to you about why you take joy in watching others feel disappointed in an organization of which they are a part. The church has been wrong on some weighty issues in the past. To their credit, over time they appear to get most of them right (which you certainly can't say for all organizations). A large reason they get them right is the voice of the members inside the organization who push for change. |
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My concerns are thousands of years old. I have Epicurus, Spinoza, Franklin, Paine, Einstein for starters on my side. Were they liars and possessing evil motive?
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