08-13-2008, 03:33 PM | #31 |
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So, what's the motivation? Are we all just marching behind the prophet, who in turn is marching behind God, none us from bottom to top knowing why?
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Nice anus avatar, btw.
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The most coherent argument I hear from the other side (my wife) is that marriage is a sacred union of two individuals necessarily connected with the also sacred power of procreation, and she would like to preserve that aspect of the definition in society. She's fully in support of giving civil unions every legal right that a marriage has, but the term "marriage" is important to her. I don't have a good answer to that, but generally fall back on my belief that the church needs to stay out of politics. |
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Since you apparently believe there are no coherent reasons for such--right on up to the prophet--I'm curious to hear you explain why we as a church are involved in this. Do you really think Pres Monson looks at a copy of Prop 8 on his desk and says, "I know not, save the Lord commanded me"?
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The real "duty" to be done is the development of one's own moral decision making. Maybe all concerned will learn something this time around.
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Your wife's position is fine, but again, it isnt terribly persuasive in terms of explaining why gay marriage should be disallowed. There is no articulated reason as to why it would be important to preserve that specific definition. I am not attacking your wife....my wife has a similar viewpoint (although perhaps not to the extent as your wife, not sure...). I am just reiterating that ultimately, most reasons given have been pretty feeble.
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Huh? Did you not understand my question?
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I disagree with them, but I am not ready to say that they have not quite developed their own sense of moral decision making, simply because they have come to a different conclusion than I. Not trying to imply that you are suggesting this, either. Just pointing out that faithful obedience to the Prophet does not necessarily equate to an inability/unwillingness to make one's own decisions.
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