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Or is it more an interest in financial benefits? Usually it's about the money.
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I guess it depends on your definition of "choose". I realize my one-liner was sloppy, but I think my earlier post illustrated what I mean fairly well. IMO, people don't choose where they sit on the straight-gay continuum. There are people in the middle who do indeed choose which type of relationship they would like to be involved in, as they could be reasonably gratified in either. |
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I don't either. My only experience is with two friends, one of whom I'm close enough with to believe that her lesbian time was more than just experimentation and that her current hetero relationship is genuine. I've never personally seen it happen with men, although there are stories out there. Because of these stories, I just have to assume that we're all on a continuum, most of us at the ends, but a few somewhere in the middle.
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If you accept that being gay is not a choice and my premise of the importance of romantic love and assoiated sexual intimacy to human happiness and well being, and still oppose gay marriage, you are making a value judgment that their form of romantic love ought to be stigmatized, treated as illegitimate and inferior. Indeed, that they as people don't desrve the same status and dignity that you, a heterosexual, deserve. Cardiac's point is that of course if your religion tells you being gay is a sin and people will be punished in the hereafter for it, you will want gays to be stigmatized and treated publically as inferior people. I understand that.
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Did you get married for tax savings? Your suggestion is pretty ugly. I don't know what else to call it other than hateful or bigoted.
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As it is I keep trying to put you on ignore but there doesn't seem to be a way to accomplish this. Maybe this issue for some of us bigots has nothing to do with religion and just the fact that the homosexual act makes most normal human beings sickened. And the thoughts of not only just ignoring it but embracing it makes allot of us bigots yearn for the old days when they just kept it out of sight out of mind, and we didn't have to feel as thought the disgusting act needs legitimization. Hate the sin brother not the sinner. |
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Unless the Dutch law started before then, never. So it was not a tradition and it's still not tradition elsewhere. Go look up the definition of tradition. And what the f.. is marriage any how? We like to make it this end all be all, but it is the Church's at one time and finally the state's sanctioning of a relationship for certain inheritances and other governmental benefits. In reality, if we Christians really believed in God, we wouldn't need marriage at all. Your bait no longer works, go play with exUte.
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