Photos from today's protest

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Tex

I think it's an important distinction. You've offered no reason why it's obfuscation, sophistry, or meaningless, except your say-so.

Pardon me if I don't accept your judgment on the matter. That's like asking Obama to rate McCain's performance in a debate.

Funny you keep using that line. When I post something on an internet message board, I am stating my opinion. I would have figured that much is obvious.

Originally Posted by Tex

The last point is also legitimate. If someone says "I'm gay," what means are available to me to verify or not verify? None. The best studies that might be available on people who say why they are gay are nothing more than surveys asking for folks' opinions.

Again illustrating your ignorance of the scientific literature on the topic, or scientific literature in general. They do more than just ask opinions. You are dismissing the entire body of work a priori without any investigation.

Originally Posted by Tex

Lastly, if you cannot respond without calling me a sophist, ignorant, a bigot, or some other name, please: just don't respond.

?? I didn't call you a name. I commented on your logic.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Again illustrating your ignorance of the scientific literature on the topic, or scientific literature in general. They do more than just ask opinions. You are dismissing the entire body of work a priori without any investigation.

This is what I asked for:

Do you have any studies as to how many people say they choose to be gay vs. say they are born that way?

If you have an example of that, I'm all ears.