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Play it that way if you want. But to be consistent, you will then also have to identify Reagan and GHWB as socialists due to their responses to the S&L crisis in the 80's. Most US presidents have adopted at least one policy that, with strict regard to just that single policy and without putting that policy in the context of all other policies supported by such president, could be regarded as "socialist." What is amusing about the charge with Obama isn't that a single policy is identified as containing elements of socialism, but that the conclusion is that the man himself is a socialist, and all policies advocated by the man are socialist (note that you do this above, but don't do the same with GWB in your post above-you separate him from your encompassing conclusions with respect to Obama by a parenthetical that points out that one of Bush's policies was socialist).
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04-10-2009, 03:26 PM | #12 |
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Some Americans are uncomfortable having a president who is also the de facto CEO of nationalized corporations, calling the shots, firing people, etc. It smacks, very slightly, of a socialist running a command economy.
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Socialist, fascist, progressive, whatever. Obama and the U.S. left clearly are collectivists in orientation. They do not believe in the individual. That's all I care about - whatever particular collectivist strain they fit under means little to me.
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This thread is exhibit A on why the term socialist has been rendered useless.
Obama is a redistributor, he ran on it, he won on it, he will enact it, the economy will grow, all Americans, including the rich, will benefit from it, just like with Bill Clinton, end of story.
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#1 is not proof.
#2 had nothing to do really with Clinton. He just happened to be in office during significant growth. No President, regardless politics can get credit nor can be blamed for the economy. I ask again, what proof do you have to make a definitive statement, especially about all benefiting from it?
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