08-30-2006, 04:02 PM | #41 |
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Is it easy to find? Do they have it at BlockBuster? Dubbed or subtitled?
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One other word for any with sensitivities about ratings: this one is a war movie and does not spare details. It is gory at times and NOT a family film. Thankfully, the level of realism is hardly the star of the movie; the story of the two brothers is what drives this film.
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I liked the movie too, but it was not Gibsons best works, which to me are Brave Heart and We Were Soldiers (best Vietnam war movie IMO). The thing I like about Gibson is that he is not afraid to introduce "patriotic" themes that most of Hollywood would think were jingoistic or hokey. For example, one of the most touching scenes in We Were Soliders is early on when one young man lays dying and with his last breath says that he is proud to have given his life in the service of his country. Most of Hollywood would think that obsurd, and of course we can debate about the utility of giving a life for any given cause, yet there are many great people in our armed forces who felt and feel that way and see nothing hokey about it. Props to Gibson for being willing to depict those sorts of things.
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I'm surprised that no one has said Red Dawn. I'm always surprised to hear how campy people think that one is, but I (we) are at just the age where we are old enough to remember growing up during the cold war and I remember very distinctly being an elementary school child who would look up at the sky and see contrails and worry that maybe nuclear weapons had been launched, and worrying about what would happen to me (growing up near DC) if Russia attacked us. Red Dawn came at a time that it perfectly captured what I was worried about and when I watch it it brings be right back to that age. People who are too young to remember living under that threat won't quite understand it, the same way my generation can only understand Vietnam intellectually but not emotionally. I liked Rocky 4 quite a bit for some of the same reasons.
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1. The Great Escape
2. Dirty Dozen 3. Band of Brothers 4. We Were Soldiers 5. Last Samurai (For Ken Watanabe's performance)
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I agree Dan with what you are saying...my problem with Patriot was that Gibson seemed to be pointing out that his fighting had nothing to do with his country, it was all because of his son. Yes, he was protecting his son, which in turn is protecting his home, which in turn is protecting his country. But it seemed like that wasn't the point Gibson was trying to make. It was like a clear distinction in that movie that he had no interest in being in a war to help his country but he was forced in it to save his son. He could have been living in Korea, Russia or Vietnam, he was going to fight on the side his son was to save him. Anyway, just my interpretation and a reason why that movie could have been great but in fact, was terrible to me.
Patriot is a complex term...I just think it got muddled in that movie when it didn't need to be. And I am probably wrong, but I think you give Gibson too much credit in what he was trying to accomplish with that movie and that title of the movie. But, probably like usual, I am wrong. |
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Good ones and some for the classics:
1. Saving Private Ryan 2. Braveheart 3. Platoon 4. The Longest Day 5. Patton ...just missed... Patriot Battle of the Bulge (Nuts!) Tora Tora Tora Midway Das Boot Green Beret Great Escape Bridge over River Kwai
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The greatest war movie is Downfall. I saw it after this thread passed on. And I am a lover of war movies.
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Downfall is very good. Watching that mother kill all of her children is just as disturbing/chilling as any battle scene.
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