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Or the woman who hijacks each lesson with a diatribe about non-Christian religions (Buddhists), her disgust over the professional sports teams' cheerleaders skirt length, or her latest visions involving meeting the devil on the moon? No one else has such characters in their ward? |
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People would be happier if they obeyed all the
commandments, but we come from different backgrounds with differing weaknesses.
I find it amazing, in part because this is one of the few sins which I haven't committed, not going to list the ones I have, that people don't enjoy being fit. In all probability I take it to an extreme, but how anybody could enjoy being overweight is beyond me. Or why they don't change. However, people with sterling personalities might wonder how I can stand being such a jerk, and why I don't work on it. My question really is, how can you enjoy huffing up stairs or not keeping up with the kids? I don't really view it as sinful but sad that those persons are missing out on a good part of life.
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12-08-2005, 03:38 AM | #14 |
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My current bishop is a black belt in Aikido and Ninjitsu and is the most humble and cool bishop I've ever had.
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For all practical purposes, there are only two commandments that matter in the church: 1. No extramarital sex. 2. No coffee, tea, alcohol, tobacco, (non-prescription, non-OTC) drugs. Well -- I guess three if you count "No felonies". o
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12-10-2005, 08:00 AM | #17 |
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Responding to outlier's post ... I don't think the WoW is simply a hoop through which the Lord wants us to jump to show our obedience. I think there are usually very good reasons for the Lord's commandments, rather than just being tests of obedience. In the case of the WoW there are fairly obvious health reasons for each of its facets -- for example, most of the "banned substances" harm our health, especially if consumed in excess.
Then again, maybe it's just the optimist in me (which is usually a very small part of me!) hoping that the Lord won't give us random commandments for no other reason than to test us. I like to think the Lord is more practical than that. But I might be wrong. I remember an acquaintance at BYU telling me that a certain leader at Ricks told the students that some of the rules at Ricks were instituted for the sole purpose of testing their obedience. This little anecdote made me very uneasy, not to mention queasy. Ricks is to Cougarboard what BYU is to Cougarguard. |
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there may be "just do it" commandments authorized
by Father and suggested by leaders, but WoW seems to be one of those created for our benefit.
God doesn't need anything of the sort, but our bodies and minds benefit from keeping it. Eating intelligently, sleeping correctly, exercising are all things which science proves is the right thing to do. However, because we learn precept upon precept, not everybody will be on the same page at the same time.
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12-10-2005, 05:29 PM | #19 |
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A few thoughts on alcohol in the Word of Wisdom
I do not think that avoiding alcohol is just a hoop to jump through, it is there for a very specific reason. If it was not in the Word of Wisdom I would not see a problem with social drinking, or a glass of wine or a beer with a meal. The problem is that it is rarely social drinking with people even if it starts that way.
I have not had alcohol in about 2 months now, and while I occassionally miss it, not consuming it has been better. First I lost about 15 pounds just by taking alcohol out of my diet and doing everything else the same. My man-boobs are decreasing such that they are to the point that Goatnapper would no longer be impressed by them. Of course this is just a side benefit. The other benefits is alcohol is damn expensive and you will spend a lot of money on it. It has saved me a lot since I stopped drinking. Also it is very easy to slip into drinking in excess a lot. I actually stopped drinking for a time before I came back to church. One night I got scared as I was drinking alone in my apartment when I realized that I had gotten drunk, not just had a few drinks but got drunk, the past 5 nights. I think the complete prohibition of alcohol is simply to prevent the more serious problems that inevitably come with it. |
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Seriously, though, congrats on your progress and giving up alcohol. |
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