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MikeWaters · 12-13-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius

Also didn't Sterling McMurrin beat MW to this position by about 40 years?

He's a hero. And almost excommunicated as well (see DOM biography).

Tex · 12-13-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He's a hero. And almost excommunicated as well (see DOM biography).

I don't think he should've been excommunicated, but he certainly should've been reprimanded. He was every bit as manipulative of the prophet as the DOM authors' claimed BRM was vis-a-vis Mormon Doctrine.

That he was ultimately vindicated in the end doesn't excuse his methods.

pelagius · 12-13-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He's a hero. And almost excommunicated as well (see DOM biography).

I like McMurrin too. In fact I enjoyed, The Theological Foundations of the Mormon Religion quite a bit. He is an important figure in Mormon intellectual culture. However, I think it is worth noting that his beliefs about Mormonism are closer to SU's than yours overall.

MikeWaters · 12-13-2007, 08:37 PM

You will note, IIRC, that DOM believed McMurrin kept people in the church who would have left otherwise.

He that can hear, let him hear.

JohnnyLingo · 12-13-2007, 08:38 PM

Wow, what is this, the sixth 10-page thread about blacks and the priesthood? I'm shocked you guys still have things to talk about.

Or, more likely, you are beating the ground above where the horse is buried.

pelagius · 12-13-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

You will note, IIRC, that DOM believed McMurrin kept people in the church who would have left otherwise.

This is true for SU too

MikeWaters · 12-13-2007, 08:41 PM

We had to debate it again due to Christopher Hitchens reading cougarguard. He can now expound about how the Romney campaign is opening deep hidden undiscussed wounds among Mormons, dividing them one against another.

Jeff Lebowski · 12-13-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius

This is true for SU too

Now, that's funny.

SeattleUte · 12-13-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

He's a hero. And almost excommunicated as well (see DOM biography).

McMurrin was an apostate.

pelagius · 12-13-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Now, that's funny.

See people never think I say funny stuff. I am glad my comedic genius is finally being recognized.

12-13-2007, 08:37 PM	#114
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	You will note, IIRC, that DOM believed McMurrin kept people in the church who would have left otherwise. He that can hear, let him hear.

12-13-2007, 08:38 PM	#115
JohnnyLingo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	Wow, what is this, the sixth 10-page thread about blacks and the priesthood? I'm shocked you guys still have things to talk about. Or, more likely, you are beating the ground above where the horse is buried.

12-13-2007, 08:41 PM	#117
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	We had to debate it again due to Christopher Hitchens reading cougarguard. He can now expound about how the Romney campaign is opening deep hidden undiscussed wounds among Mormons, dividing them one against another.