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[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by woot

Contact, a movie based on a book written by an atheist, for crying out loud, ended in the atheist main character having a religious experience.

A religious experience? That's pushing it.

[woot]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

He must have seen Evan Almighty recently.

Well sure there are also many overtly religious films, although I didn't see Evan Almighty. I thought the gigantic furor over the Golden Compass would have demonstrated the rarity of films that advocate nonbelief, no matter how gently.

[woot]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

A religious experience? That's pushing it.

Well she seemed to stay a nonbeliever after it was over, but that was clearly the point of it. Perhaps "spiritual" or "numinous" would be more accurate. It wasn't just that, though. The "prove you loved your father" that she was so dumbstruck by (as if she wouldn't have heard that a million times by then) was telling.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by woot

Well, 1408 was a recent movie in which the non-believer was proven wrong. Contact, a movie based on a book written by an atheist, for crying out loud, ended in the atheist main character having a religious experience. There were at least two other movies in the last couple years about non-believers finding religion after some life-changing experience that I didn't see. I am Legend ends by proving the hero scientist's unbelief wrong.

I really thought all this was obvious.

I should have disclosed that I rarely see movies these days, as I believe Hollywood has produced almost nothing but garbage for a good 25 years.

I've gone to one movie in the last several years, as discussed in another thread. But that's because I like Homer Simpson.

[minn_stat]

Originally Posted by woot

yes, because that's obviously so very effective.

And you think government running health care is going to be effective?

[Indy Coug]

Wanting to turn healthcare over to the government is like taking the keys from your dad due to his suspended drivers license and handing them over to your drunken 95 year old grandfather instead.

[minn_stat]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

If you are LDS, I suppose the more pertinent question is why don't you want to help them?

"Mosiah 4:16": 16 And also, ye yourselves will succor those that stand in need of your succor; ye will administer of your substance unto him that standeth in need; and ye will not suffer that the beggar putteth up his petition to you in vain, and turn him out to perish.

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And the only way to help them is to give the government more power?

I'd be willing to compare the resources (money, time) I've given to help others over the past year against yours.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

And the only way to help them is to give the government more power?

I'd be willing to compare the resources (money, time) I've given to help others over the past year against yours.

My experience is that people working in, volunteering in, and donating to charities often lean to the left.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

And the only way to help them is to give the government more power?

I'd be willing to compare the resources (money, time) I've given to help others over the past year against yours.

No, not at all. There are lots of ways to help. I didn't post that to demonstrate the government needs to be the one to provide help. I posted it because NorCal continues to throw out crap "those people don't deserve help because they don't help themselves."

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by minn_stat

And the only way to help them is to give the government more power?

I'd be willing to compare the resources (money, time) I've given to help others over the past year against yours.

No, not at all. There are lots of ways to help. I didn't post that to demonstrate the government needs to be the one to provide help. We can argue about the most efficient way to provide that help, but it is tangential to the post you quoted. I posted it because NorCal continues to throw out crap "those people don't deserve help because they don't help themselves."