Proposition 8 take a break..we can reach our destination..but we're still a ways away

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by BYU71

Wow, I am impressed you guys are still going back and forth on this.

on a side note, where have you been for the past week or two? you have been pretty low-pro, it seems.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

on a side note, where have you been for the past week or two? you have been pretty low-pro, it seems.

Markets like this tend to keep me busier than usual. I post in dramatic spurts and dramatic lulls.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

If the California Constitution has been amended 500 times I'd be interested in knowing how many times the "Bill of Rights" section has been amended, and to limit not expand liberty.

And by the way, Prop 115, passed in 1990, rolled back the rights of the accused, to afford to the accused "no greater constitutional rights than federal Constitution affords."

So certainly not 0 times.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Oh, I'm pretty sure that if I was against Prop 8, I wouldn't say "oh, this is not pushing Prop 8 so hard, so maybe I will do it."

Is this so much of a stretch you can't imagine me following through?

I think that if your bishop sat down with you and said "I know this is hard but it's something I've been asked to do by the SP and he by an apostle. It's something I need to ask you to please help me with even if you personally can't get there yet" that your decision would be a lot tougher than it seems. Especially in the framework of a "who's on the Lord's side who?" argument and added to that a "you are one of the leaders of this ward" argument.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

I think that if your bishop sat down with you and said "I know this is hard but it's something I've been asked to do by the SP and he by an apostle. It's something I need to ask you to please help me with even if you personally can't get there yet" that your decision would be a lot tougher than it seems. Especially in the framework of a "who's on the Lord's side who?" argument and added to that a "you are one of the leaders of this ward" argument.

If that happened to me I would have to tell the Bishop I actually agree with the point. I actually would like the amendment to happen. I would tell him I am extremely uncomfortable in going out as a representitive of the mormon church pushing this amendment.

I am extremely uncomfortable that the possiblility will come where the SP might come and ask that I do something political that I don't agree with and lay the "who's on the Lord side who" argument on me. That who is on the Lords side who is a very, very weak argument brought up by people who feel the only method of persuading someone is strongarming them.

I prefer those who ask me to pray about it and do what the spirit directs me to do.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by BYU71

I actually would like the amendment to happen. I would tell him I am extremely uncomfortable in going out as a representitive of the mormon church pushing this amendment.

In our area, at least, we are not being asked to be representatives of the church. we are simply asked to talk about the amendment.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by creekster

In our area, at least, we are not being asked to be representatives of the church. we are simply asked to talk about the amendment.

With your suits, white shirts and dark ties, people will be able to figure it out.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by BYU71

With your suits, white shirts and dark ties, people will be able to figure it out.

Friend, THats' only on Sunday for me.

[TripletDaddy]

Update....

There will be a statewide satellite broadcast on Wed, Oct 8 at 7PM (or 7:30?) in all stake centers. SLC on Prop 8. California only.

I am actually really looking forward to it. Should be interesting.

[OrangeUte]

I heard about this and am very curious of what will be said. All of a sudden we are hearing about prop 8 in talks and testimonies and apparently the church as a whole is okay a facilities and plots being used.