Does anybody forgive Bush his trespasses?

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by BlueHair

I might be mistaken, but I think the way inflation is reported has changed since Carter was president. I would be surprised if inflation isn't a least ten percent now. Doesn't the government take out food, energy, and housing when calculating inflation?

Could be, but that doesn't help Carter's case.

I will give him a break about the killer rabbit attack. That could cause anyone severe duress.

[ute4ever]

Presently, Bush does not acknowledge his tresspassatories, give apologatories or express any remorse (or as he would call it, "express my freedom feelings"). How can one forgive a person who is still actively engaged in his destructive ways and refuses to address or entertain the public opinion?

At least Clinton apologized for setting a bad example (Lewinsky), then engaged in a year-long, worldwide humanitarian tour with his former political rival. That was something. Presently Bush has done nothing.

[Tex]

I don't meant to interrupt another fun piss-on-Bush thread, but there was a report yesterday on how well prepared the Bush administration is for the transition. They've apparently worked closely with transition teams in both campaigns to make sure things go smoothly.

Contrast that to the way Bill Clinton handled it.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Venkman

I've never been a big supporter. I didn't vote for him in the 2000 primaries, and I voted 3rd party in the general. I never believed he was a true conservative so I while disappointed, I wasn't really let down by his domestic record because it was expected. I've disagreed with much of what he's done. I think Iraq was probably a mistake.

That said, I believe he is a fundamentally decent man who truly did what he felt was in America's best interests (and ultimately he may very well be vindicated). While much of the criticism is warranted, much of it is gross hyperbole. He certainly doesn't deserve the Bushitler scorn heaped upon him from the left since day one.

So can I forgive him? Sure, but since I never have felt betrayed I'm not sure there's a need.

The one thing he could have done that would have been unforgivable for me would be to go after guns. He didn't. Plus he appointed two great judges to the SCOTUS. Those two things alone make him vastly superior to Gore and Kerry and there's no question he'd easily get my vote over Obama.

These same folks now want everyone to work together? Practice what you preach, you liberal communists!

[exUte]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

Presently, Bush does not acknowledge his tresspassatories, give apologatories or express any remorse (or as he would call it, "express my freedom feelings"). How can one forgive a person who is still actively engaged in his destructive ways and refuses to address or entertain the public opinion?

At least Clinton apologized for setting a bad example (Lewinsky), then engaged in a year-long, worldwide humanitarian tour with his former political rival. That was something. Presently Bush has done nothing.

What destructive ways? Entertain public opinion? Are you saying the public has all the info the president has at his disposal when making decisions? you mean like governing through polls?

I hope you weren't old enough to vote.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Right now, I can't. Maybe never.

A sincere man, IMO, but a terrible leader. He should take a lot of blame for the division in the country. When you always have to make those who disagree with you to be traitors and people who hate freedom and America, it doesn't exactly serve much of a purpose.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Venkman

Plus he appointed two great judges to the SCOTUS. Those two things alone make him vastly superior to Gore and Kerry and there's no question he'd easily get my vote over Obama.

How close we came to Alberto Gonzales and Harriet Miers however. I credit divine Providence for making sure we didn't get the people Bush really wanted.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by BlueK

How close we came to Alberto Gonzales and Harriet Miers however. I credit divine Providence for making sure we didn't get the people Bush really wanted.

True. But he gets blamed for alot of things not under his control, which is just part of the deal. So he gets credit for Roberts and Alito.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by BlueK

A sincere man, IMO, but a terrible leader. He should take a lot of blame for the division in the country. When you always have to make those who disagree with you to be traitors and people who hate freedom and America, it doesn't exactly serve much of a purpose.

While he may have some role to play in the current division... one, it's always been there, and two, the left was worse. To them he was the illegitimate "selected" president and they never gave him a chance. I hope the right treats Obama better than the left treated Bush. I will certainly try.

[RC Vikings]

Originally Posted by Tex

I don't meant to interrupt another fun piss-on-Bush thread, but there was a report yesterday on how well prepared the Bush administration is for the transition. They've apparently worked closely with transition teams in both campaigns to make sure things go smoothly.

Contrast that to the way Bill Clinton handled it.

I didn't realize they were that well prepared for the transition. In that case all in forgiven and should make up for the never ending war, the outrageous deficit and leaving the Republican party in taters. Honestly I think Bush's intentions were good but Cheney lead him down a very dark road.