02-24-2008, 12:34 AM | #11 |
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It's odd if it's occurring that way.
However, these guys could do it differently by just stating, "hey, we oppose the FMA or whatever it's called." The mistake, politically, these folk make, is to go public against the Church. In many other circumstances folks can do that and get away with it, but not in this context. Nonetheless, I imagine this too shall pass and change.
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I guess what it boils down to, is that I believe in a personal relationship with God. And I don't think ANY mortal man has the power to step between a person and God.
I don't care what the religion is, I don't care about what priesthood, what authority, or anything. The personal relationship between a person and God is inviolate, and only dependent on God and that person. I recognize that social organizations do have and should have the power to regulate their membership. That's fine. And we are always taking in data that either pushes into stronger or weaker membership in that social organization. We need to decide who we want to be. Figure out how big this tent is. And also we need to think about why some stakes have larger tents and other stakes have smaller tents. Maybe SEIQ is right. Maybe the very soul of the LDS church is up for grabs right now, and the mullahs are in furious attacking retreat. It's sad. |
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I understand and can sympathize with the bulk of your post. I think at this point the bulk of the church doesn't mind the order of things. Maybe as time moves on that will change and then the churches stance on this might too. AS one who doesn't approve of gay marriage, I hope they don't. However, I don't ever use the churches stance as being a doctrinal issue. I consider it a social issue, much like the black situation was. |
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It seems inevitable that gay marriage is legalized. I dont care one bit if it is. I am not against it.
But I am interested to see the also inevitable reactions of homophobes in and out of the Church that will hide behind a phony shield of conservatism and family values to justify exclusionary behavior. How many LDS families will do the following upon the legalization of gay marriage: 1. Not speak to gay couples that come to our Sacrament meeting 2. Not allow their children to play with children of gay couples 3. Not befriend gay couples that move to your street, block, etc... All of these will happen, no doubt. And all in the name of family values and adherence to what Christ would want us to do.
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Triplet, you're being too harsh on the members.
In gay couples, they represent something which is very difficult for the members to understand. Gay copulation is a sin in the eyes of most members. So they won't know how to respond. Some will respond cautiously, some will stand off and some will act as they would with heterosexual couples. You take social conservatives and can't expect them to behave as if they were living on Castro Street in San Francisco. I suspect members would treat gay couples better than they will treat members who support gay couples.
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Just noticed that Dr. Bradshaw from the Biology dept. at BYU got quite a bit of mention at the end of that article. He was one of my favorite professors at the Y.
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That's the story, anyway - don't know if it's very true but it's a nice family story.
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