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Old 12-04-2007, 03:23 PM   #11
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If the left goes after Romney for being a Mormon it could get very ugly. They will play the race card and the sexism card (yes, they'll pull material from the Temple Ceremony).
Ever since Romney began his campaign I've had an image of him being interviewed and asked about specific aspects of the temple; garments, handshakes, covenants, ceremonial clothing, patriarcy, changes in the endowment etc. You're right. It could get really ugly.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:26 PM   #12
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The left has been easier on Romney's Mormonism than has the right. Oh sure, a few secularists are worked up, but it isn't even close.

If the left goes after Romney for being a Mormon it could get very ugly. They will play the race card and the sexism card (yes, they'll pull material from the Temple Ceremony).

The left really is more tolerant on this than the right is. The left is not trying to make Romney do some theological dance. The religious right is jam packed with clowns, and they'll be damned if Romney can drive their little clown car.
All Romney has to say is "I don't believe in any part of Mormonism that is racist and anti-women."
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:30 PM   #13
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The left has been easier on Romney's Mormonism than has the right. Oh sure, a few secularists are worked up, but it isn't even close.

If the left goes after Romney for being a Mormon it could get very ugly. They will play the race card and the sexism card (yes, they'll pull material from the Temple Ceremony).

The left really is more tolerant on this than the right is.
I suspect they are more conniving and calculating. Why spend your capital attacking Romney if his own are doing that? Wouldn't you spend your capital attacking somebody like Giuliani or McCain, who aren't being attacked by the inside Reps?

If and when Romney is the nominee, the left has no more scruples or tolerance than the right, they just have better timing. You can't show me any discretion by the left in any matter. And in a theatric sense, you can "claim" the moral high ground after others have derailed Romney by appearing tolerant.
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All Romney has to say is "I don't believe in any part of Mormonism that is racist and anti-women."
I believe he simply quotes the Smoot hearings' statement of Mormons being free to disagree on matters of principle and theology, and agrees to disagree as Mike said, on anything racist or sexist.
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The left has been easier on Romney's Mormonism than has the right. Oh sure, a few secularists are worked up, but it isn't even close.
Just wait until if he gets the nomination.

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Parenthetically, I think this Thursday speech will be the turning point, for better or worse, for Romney. He's going to have the attention of every major news organization and will command momentary attention the envy of almost every other candidate, R or D. If he gets the nomination or loses it, I'll bet we will be able to point to this speech and its aftermath as the reason.
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Just wait until if he gets the nomination.

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Parenthetically, I think this Thursday speech will be the turning point, for better or worse, for Romney. He's going to have the attention of every major news organization and will command momentary attention the envy of almost every other candidate, R or D. If he gets the nomination or loses it, I'll bet we will be able to point to this speech and its aftermath as the reason.
Agreed. The left is definitely "lying in wait" with Romney. If he somehow gets the nomination, you'll start seeing all sorts of crap about women and blacks and the priesthood, gay marriage, abortion and so forth.
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Agreed. The left is definitely "lying in wait" with Romney. If he somehow gets the nomination, you'll start seeing all sorts of crap about women and blacks and the priesthood, gay marriage, abortion and so forth.
The left is not tolerant, just more clever and devious.

The right wing wackos are simply stupid and incompetent in their bigotry. The left is more polished.
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The left is not tolerant, just more clever and devious.
You give the left far too much credit.
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Agreed. The left is definitely "lying in wait" with Romney. If he somehow gets the nomination, you'll start seeing all sorts of crap about women and blacks and the priesthood, gay marriage, abortion and so forth.
The secularists are lying in wait, but many on the left don't think Mormonism is a big deal. They'd rather he not talk about it alot (except for the religious leftists, like Jim Wallis), but they're more interested in things like health care, the war, global warming, and so on.

Those leftists who do go after Romney for being Mormon could be quite aggressive, though, and are apt to make some Mormons pretty uncomfortable. Some little ditties like the Church working behind the scenes against the ERA could be especially problematic.
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