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P.S. though I was very upset about the status of the program 2002-2004 (well actually up until a week ago), I never did demand or wish that he be fired. I was always about, "I hope he can get it right, and this is what he needs to do better". Even at the end, I was marginal about him getting fired because of the turnaround in the offense middle 2004. I would have only fired him if I would have known Chow or Whittingham were in the bag. I thought the Bronco hire was not an upgrade in the position.
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10-10-2006, 10:34 PM | #13 | |
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One thing that I don't think has been discussed, but is what REALLY did him in, was the fact that he had SO MANY players turn on him. Why do you think one of the first things that Bronco did was establish the "fully invested" philosophy? It is because that was one of the biggest problems with the team when he took over. I think that all of those points that Goat and Jay mentioned are what led to the players quitting on him, but I also think that had the players not quit on, he would have won more games and he likely would have kept his job. |
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10-10-2006, 10:38 PM | #14 | |
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Team unity is the most overrated concept in sports, IMHO. Show me a team that's not unified going into a season. I can show you quotes from the papers that said "this is the most unified we've ever been. last year we had guys doing their own thing, but now we all hang out together and there's a great team feeling". I can show you this quote every August going back to the late 80's when I started following the Cougs religiously. Also, show me a team that's unified when you've had three losing seasons in a row or at the end of the season when the team has underachieved drastically. |
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10-10-2006, 10:43 PM | #15 | |
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Bronco appears to have some strong leadership traits and I think he would utilize that God given skill wherever he was. It would be packaged differently, but the intent would be the same. I will say that I thought he did get some mileage off of dancing on Gary's grave to some extent in illuminating how things would be different.
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10-10-2006, 11:08 PM | #16 |
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I think it's a good thing for players to have a healthy fear of their coach.
The players and some of the coaches simply didn't have that fear or respect for their coach. You don't have that, you don't have a team.
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Coach Crowton.
He wasn't my first choice, but I happily bought into the hype that soon followed. 2001 gave some positive early season returns, but after the wheels came off, that was a sign of things to come. He was the worst of all coaches, as a head coach, nothing bad about him personally, so one couldn't dislike him but not forceful or properly organized enough to command the HC job. He might be better served as a career OC. Norm Chow has done okay with that, so no shame in it. His mistakes, seem to be selection of a divisive assistant coach, failure to exercise tight control over the troops, the QB shuffle, the Reno disaster, Stanford disaster, inserting Beck too early, not backing Berry enough and the inability to provide guidance during the bad days. Again, appears to be a very competent OC, but may not be cut out for HC.
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10-10-2006, 11:37 PM | #18 |
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Crowton was not the steady, guiding hand.
He was the mad genius who couldn't see the forest for the trees. Soon he became the desperate genius, taking uncalled for risks that didn't pay off. Once he had lost his team, he couldn't get them back. Could Crowton have regained the team last year, enough to match Bronco's record? Could he have matched Bronco's record this year? Hard to argue that he couldn't have. But sometimes a group needs a new leader, regardless of the quality of the current leader. Look at the Yankees. No one is going to argue that Torre is a bad manager. But sometimes you need new ideas and a new direction. |
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Without going too far off on a tangent, the Yankees problem is that they have way too many overpaid and aging players that didn't provide a return on their investment. The Yankees decimated their farm system to obtain some of those players. Many of these players are too expensive and/or too old to deal for younger prospects.
They are in a controlled death spiral. Expect worse results in the future and it has nothing to do with Torre. |
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