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View Poll Results: What is your opinion of FARMS? | |||
Den of liars and cheats | 3 | 15.00% | |
Perfect acronym; I think of a funny farm | 2 | 10.00% | |
High powered academics doing ground breaking work | 1 | 5.00% | |
Honest advocates | 9 | 45.00% | |
Option 1 & 2 | 5 | 25.00% | |
Option 3 & 4 | 0 | 0% | |
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07-22-2007, 05:05 AM | #11 | |
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Look a few of the articles have been published in reputable journals. A few have been cited. But you know that, but choose to use the dishonest form of argumentation by throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I make no claim that FARMS is the heighth of scholarship, nor do they. I even have my own criticism of them, but I will not blindly disregard them because some disaffecteds masturbate with joy when two of them deride the same church related item. Two KKKs noting others hate blacks. Wow, what a revelation. Color me unimpressed. Mormons are but a blip, and your expectations that big time scholars will study LDS claims is ignorant and naive, if you believed it. But you're setting up a strawman to claim victory. I won't play that game, because it's specious and dishonest. I'm aware of the strawman technique and reject your thesis.
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07-22-2007, 05:17 AM | #12 | |
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I categorically reject your assertion that LDS who have considered the question are "scholarly authorities" in any sense. I know no such thing. Give me a citation, Archea. I bet you no FARMS work product has been published in any "reputable journal." Show me where FARMS work has been cited in "reputable journals." I don't believe it.
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07-22-2007, 05:20 AM | #13 | |
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The LDS Church isn't for you. We got it the first zillion times you've brought it up and we get it now. Time to move on.
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07-22-2007, 05:56 AM | #14 |
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07-22-2007, 06:02 AM | #15 | |
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My explanation is self-evidently accurate, it's not circular. My question answers itself. Do universities study astrology? Why not?
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07-22-2007, 06:02 AM | #16 | |
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You categorically rejecting it means nothing. You are capable, more than capable lawyer. You are a capable Roman historian and a gifted author, but your understanding of LDS principles and its history as well as scholarship surrounding LDS issues is embarrassing naive and simpleton. I can anticipate your retort when I cite the articles which have been published.
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07-22-2007, 06:18 AM | #17 | |
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07-22-2007, 02:43 PM | #18 | |
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Richard Bushman, professor at Columbia, certainly a rising star in academia. Henry Eyring, father of the current member of the twelve. Biography here: http://www.nap.edu/html/biomems/heyring.html David Bednar, current member of the twelve, comes from a teaching background-- was recognized as the outstanding teacher at the University of Arkansas and received the Burlington Northern Foundation Award for Excellence in Teaching. He has twice been the recipient of the Outstanding Teacher Award in the College of Business Administration. Terryl Givens, professor of literature and religion at the University of Richmond. Let me know if you want me to find more.
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07-22-2007, 03:04 PM | #20 | |
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"Don't question me, sonny. My statements are self-evidently accurate!" I don't have any idea about which scholars, if any, have studied the Book of Mormon's potential as an ancient record. But if you're going to make such a sweeping statement, you'd better be able to back it up. |
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