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ChinoCoug · 09-20-2007, 06:32 PM

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Would Europeans have even colonized the Americas?

He sure didn't prevent them.

myboynoah · 09-20-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapel-Hill-Coug

I suspect that given the chance to think about it, most of these people would have revised their statements, in all fairness. But the fact that I have heard it so much is still interesting. I'm surprised noone else has heard this, though I suppose maybe I'm one of the few on the board who would steer a conversation in this direction--perhaps that's the reason. [Most often it is said after I say something like "I'm not sure I believe in God".]

I guess I'm a bit less reactionary. If God doesn't exist, I'm going to quit paying my tithing.

Chapel-Hill-Coug · 09-20-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by myboynoah

I guess I'm a bit less reactionary. If God doesn't exist, I'm going to quit paying my tithing.

Okay good, then you won't be added to my "people to watch out for" list. ;-) Whenever I hear from people, "Why be good without God?" or "Why not lie or cheat if there is no God?", I make a mental note to stay clear of that person. Why trust these people if a belief in God is the only thing keeping them from harming others?

creekster · 09-20-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapel-Hill-Coug

Okay good, then you won't be added to my "people to watch out for" list. ;-) Whenever I hear from people, "Why be good without God?" or "Why not lie or cheat if there is no God?", I make a mental note to stay clear of that person. Why trust these people if a belief in God is the only thing keeping them from harming others?

That's a little unfair. People who believe in god have a hard time comprehending what having no god would be like. We all need something to believe in, even SU. So if it isn't God, it would become somethig else (think of Aristotle on ethics, for example) . Few if any of htese poeple would go berserk, I am guessing, but they would feel pretty lost until the something else fills the void.

SoonerCoug · 09-20-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapel-Hill-Coug

"If God doesn't exist, I would just want to kill myself."

I've heard that line before.

I think it's based on the premise that life sucks without the potential of a reward in the afterlife.

Chapel-Hill-Coug · 09-20-2007, 07:01 PM

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That's a little unfair. People who believe in god have a hard time comprehending what having no god would be like. We all need something to believe in, even SU. So if it isn't God, it would become somethig else (think of Aristotle on ethics, for example) . Few if any of htese poeple would go berserk, I am guessing, but they would feel pretty lost until the something else fills the void.

The comment was really mostly TIC. It is just a sort of rhetorical turning of the tables on those who would make those assumptions about someone who doesn't believe in God. I would submit that believers and atheists cheat on their spouse, murder, steal and lie at approximately the same rate. It's not really about belief or non-belief, it is about how you view others, IMO.

SeattleUte · 09-20-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SoonerCoug

I've heard that line before.

I think it's based on the premise that life sucks without the potential of a reward in the afterlife.

I've not heard the statement that I recall, but among reiligious people fixated on the hereafter and/or a covenant with God the stentiment is not irrational, for the reason noted by Sooner.

Actually, I once had a prominent CGer tell me in a boardmail that he didn't care whether there was a God or not; he was totally indifferent. It would not change him either way. It thought that was a good attitude, and a principled way to be an agnositic. (It seemed a given from the context of the staement that he didn't believe in LDS faith.) It was not CHC.

Jeff Lebowski · 09-20-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Actually, I once had a prominent CGer tell me in a boardmail that he didn't care whether there was a God or not; he was totally indifferent. It would not change him either way. It thought that was a good attitude, and a principled way to be an agnositic. (It seemed a given from the context of the staement that he didn't believe in LDS faith.) It was not CHC.

Was it Tex?

BYU71 · 09-20-2007, 07:50 PM

If God doesn't exist there are going to be some pretty sad and dissapointed people. I imagine they will be really pissed off too.

That is if they are allowed a minute or two after death to realize they died and there is no after life. If they don't get that minute they will probably feel the same way the atheist will.

creekster · 09-20-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Actually, I once had a prominent CGer tell me in a boardmail that he didn't care whether there was a God or not; he was totally indifferent.

Some one is prominent?

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BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	If God doesn't exist there are going to be some pretty sad and dissapointed people. I imagine they will be really pissed off too. That is if they are allowed a minute or two after death to realize they died and there is no after life. If they don't get that minute they will probably feel the same way the atheist will.