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Old 11-14-2007, 04:04 PM   #11
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I asked a similar question to my bishop several years ago, wondering if I was expected to nickel and dime every favor I received such as a friend buying lunch or a cousin giving me a pair of running shoes. He said we are not expected to make tithing that intricate, and just pay on the gross of income, minus the reimbursements for travel expenses (applicable to my job, anyway).
Interesting that he instructed you to pay on gross income. I've had many leaders teach that gross income is the only way to go. For someone like VV, gross and net are the same thing, so that simplifies his life.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:52 PM   #12
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Often I will go on business trips and other people will pay for meals.. Should I pay tithing on the per diems I get?
No. It gets entirely too complicated. I pay on my gross income. Reimbursements are just that and is food an increase?
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:57 PM   #13
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No. It gets entirely too complicated. I pay on my gross income. Reimbursements are just that and is food an increase?
I also pay on gross after necessary busines expenditures like golf, hawaii, football tickets, etc.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:29 PM   #14
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I thought I recall specific instructions to priesthood leadership NOT to make this delineation.
This may be Tex's funniest post ever. He can't be serious. (He's a pretty good troll.)

Anyone who pays tithing on expense account reimbursements give me a call. I have some loveley view property on the Bonneville Salt Flats to sell you.

I don't believe anyone should pay any tithing, but suspending that belief for a moment, is this really a tough issue?
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:33 PM   #15
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This may be Tex's funniest post ever. He can't be serious. (He's a pretty good troll.)

Anyone who pays tithing on expense account reimbursements give me a call. I have some loveley view property on the Bonneville Salt Flats to sell you.

I don't believe anyone should pay any tithing, but suspending that belief for a moment, is this really a tough issue?
Tex's post is about the gross v net issue, not expense reimbursement issue, no?

And either way, he seems to be saying that gross v net is a personal issue, not a Church mandate. Am I missing the humor?
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:51 PM   #16
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the issue is that for example, last week I had to drive to saginaw and flint (200 miles total or $100 mileage reimbursement). I also got per diems both days I was there even though the people I was visiting expensed lunch each day. so that is another $70.

Wait a minute... is this one of those "since you asked now you have to do it" type thing?

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Old 11-15-2007, 02:25 PM   #17
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What I would do in that case is tithe the excess. If you spent only $100 of the $170, give the good boy network their seven dollars.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:41 PM   #18
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the issue is that for example, last week I had to drive to saginaw and flint (200 miles total or $100 mileage reimbursement). I also got per diems both days I was there even though the people I was visiting expensed lunch each day. so that is another $70.

Wait a minute... is this one of those "since you asked now you have to do it" type thing?

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Old 11-15-2007, 06:18 PM   #19
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I thought I recall specific instructions to priesthood leadership NOT to make this delineation.
You do recall such instructions. Tithing is a peculiar commandment, in that the mechanics of paying tithing are left almost completely up to the tithe payer.

Before anyone jumps on the "pay on gross" bandwagon, consider that most of the church's membership lives outside the United States (and in nations that frequently have much higher tax rates than the United States).

How would you like it if you paid on gross, then got taxed for 85% of your income? Tithing would be a devastating economic blow.

Example: You earn $1000. You pay $100 in tithing. You are taxed $850, leaving you with $50. Or, you pay on the net, and owe $15 in tithing.

When talking about such small amounts available on net, that extra $85 is a big deal.
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Did it take you all night to hitchike?
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