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jay santos · 11-30-2007, 02:07 PM

Kick out SDSU and Wyoming and bring in Hawaii and Boise and I'd feel a lot better about the conference.

Tex · 11-30-2007, 02:23 PM

You know, what happened to Wyoming? Didn't they used to field some decent teams? I have some memories in the 90's of BYU playing some well-fought games with them, and I thought they even had some decent (winning) records.

But basically since the inception of the conference they've been terrible.

DrumNFeather · 11-30-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

You know, what happened to Wyoming? Didn't they used to field some decent teams? I have some memories in the 90's of BYU playing some well-fought games with them, and I thought they even had some decent (winning) records.

But basically since the inception of the conference they've been terrible.

I would be interested to know what the difference is between a team like Wyoming and a team like Montana in regard to school size & support for athletic programs.

Montana is routinely a world beater at the 1aa level and competes every year for the national title. If you are Wyoming, and you know that their is a ceiling on your program's potential at the 1a level, I would think that 1aa might be attractive.

Then again, if Utah or BYU or TCU go to a BCS bowl, Wyoming can sit back and wait for the check to come in the mail, so that is clearly appealing as well.

jay santos · 11-30-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

You know, what happened to Wyoming? Didn't they used to field some decent teams? I have some memories in the 90's of BYU playing some well-fought games with them, and I thought they even had some decent (winning) records.

But basically since the inception of the conference they've been terrible.

Wyoming was destined for failure. With the amount of money in college athletics, the big schools with big population bases of fans and recruiting will grind out the rest. Wyoming has no chance to survive with small student body, 20K attendance and a population <100K within an hours drive to the stadium.

Mormon Red Death · 11-30-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Wyoming was destined for failure. With the amount of money in college athletics, the big schools with big population bases of fans and recruiting will grind out the rest. Wyoming has no chance to survive with small student body, 20K attendance and a population <100K within an hours drive to the stadium.

If not for the BCS... Kansas st, Wash St, Iowa st among others suffer the same fate

RockyBalboa · 11-30-2007, 02:50 PM

Maybe I'm crazy,,,well okay there's no maybe about it,,,but I've always felt the same about San Diego State of what Urban Meyer said about Utah when he took over there.

It blows me away that one of the best cities in the country would ever struggle to get recruits and have athletic programs, especially football, that continually suck rocks.

I still think if they got the right coach there that the place is prime to be wake from it's slumber and be pretty damn good. I realize with the competition just up north from USC, UCLA and other PAC-10 programs, but I guess it just baffles me that an awesome place like that sucks so much.

Tex · 11-30-2007, 02:50 PM

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If not for the BCS... Kansas st, Wash St, Iowa st among others suffer the same fate

This is exactly what I was wondering. Wyoming is certainly not the only university in a sparsely populated state. This is a bad year to ask, but how the heck does Nebraska field a good team year after year? Name recognition and tradition?

Indy Coug · 11-30-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

This is exactly what I was wondering. Wyoming is certainly not the only university in a sparsely populated state. This is a bad year to ask, but how the heck does Nebraska field a good team year after year? Name recognition and tradition?

Is there some reason why schools have to limit their recruiting to a 60 mile radius from the school? Eastern Nebraska (Lincoln and Omaha) has a pretty healthy population base and Kansas City and Des Moines aren't that far away either.

Mormon Red Death · 11-30-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Is there some reason why schools have to limit their recruiting to a 60 mile radius from the school? Eastern Nebraska (Lincoln and Omaha) has a pretty healthy population base and Kansas City and Des Moines aren't that far away either.

its not like Denver or Salt Lake are that far from laramie either

RockyBalboa · 11-30-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

its not like Denver or Salt Lake are that far from laramie either

SLC is 5 1/2 hours from Laramie. Denver is much closer if I'm not mistaken.

11-30-2007, 02:23 PM	#12
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	You know, what happened to Wyoming? Didn't they used to field some decent teams? I have some memories in the 90's of BYU playing some well-fought games with them, and I thought they even had some decent (winning) records. But basically since the inception of the conference they've been terrible. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young

11-30-2007, 02:50 PM	#16
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	Maybe I'm crazy,,,well okay there's no maybe about it,,,but I've always felt the same about San Diego State of what Urban Meyer said about Utah when he took over there. It blows me away that one of the best cities in the country would ever struggle to get recruits and have athletic programs, especially football, that continually suck rocks. I still think if they got the right coach there that the place is prime to be wake from it's slumber and be pretty damn good. I realize with the competition just up north from USC, UCLA and other PAC-10 programs, but I guess it just baffles me that an awesome place like that sucks so much. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

11-30-2007, 02:07 PM	#11
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Kick out SDSU and Wyoming and bring in Hawaii and Boise and I'd feel a lot better about the conference.