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Old 02-06-2008, 04:04 AM   #11
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McCain-Giuliani, that's my dream ticket.
And that's where it will stay. There's no way a two white dude ticket will run. Start thinking a JC Watts, Condi Rice, Liddy Dole type veep candidate.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:04 AM   #12
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Help me understand this mindset, Tex. It baffles me. Do you honestly believe that Clinton or Obama would be preferable to McCain?
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You'll get over it Tex. He's a million times better than the alternative.
I said before I may change my mind come November, after having to put up with 10 months of Hillary screeches and Obama platitudes. We shall see.

But my feelings about McCain are visceral and deep ... and a long time in developing. It's not just political, it's personal. I doubt I am alone.

Victor Davis Hansen (a McCain supporter) summed it up nicely:

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I have no idea of whether the moderates that McCain would pick up will be outweighed by the conservatives who sit our or vote for the Democratic candidate.

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Either way it doesn't really matter anymore, the McCain animus is deeply ingrained and apparently can't be retracted. It only makes things worse either to attack sincere anti-McCainites or to ask them to reconsider, or to ask them to vote for the lesser of what they see as the two evils.

As they say, the die has been cast, and everyone will have to live with the results.
Read the whole thing if you want to understand how voters like me feel.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...ZjZDUxYmJhNDc=
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Read the whole thing if you want to understand how voters like me feel.

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...outweighed by the conservatives who sit our or vote for the Democratic candidate...
I have a tough time believing conservatives could be this stupid or self-destructive. It's just emotion. It will pass.
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And that's where it will stay. There's no way a two white dude ticket will run. Start thinking a JC Watts, Condi Rice, Liddy Dole type veep candidate.
I sincerely doubt that. It would be so transparent. It would be disgusting.
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On PBS, they just announced that the McCain camp is seriously considering McCain Huckabee. If he does that I'll hate him almost as much as I hate Hillary.

That is the most offensive ticket the Republicans could ever select. My contempt for Huckabee is at an all time high.

McCain was so complimentary of Huckabee.

Romney's having his lunch handed to him, but perhaps he'll be around for 2012 running a better campaign.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:12 AM   #17
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I have a tough time believing conservatives could be this stupid or self-destructive. It's just emotion. It will pass.
I think you underestimate the anti-McCain animus, but perhaps you'll be right. I'm really not hysterical ... I came to the cold conclusion "never for McCain" long before tonight. Years ago, in fact.

Whatever the final outcome, it puts the R's at a distinct disadvantage. Just for kicks, let's assume Obama wins the D's since I think he's harder to beat than Hillary. The man is a Democrat rock star. He will out-fundraise and out-turnout the Republicans by large margins. Obama will have his base secure, and will be reaching out to independents and moderates, while John McCain spends half the election cycle trying to convince his OWN base to vote for him.

The man is a disaster for the Republican party. But he's not the first disaster we've had. I just have to think ahead to 2010 or 2012.
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And that's where it will stay. There's no way a two white dude ticket will run. Start thinking a JC Watts, Condi Rice, Liddy Dole type veep candidate.
Condi Rice or Liddy Dole would be fine.
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Condi Rice or Liddy Dole would be fine.
I hope McCain is as smart as you people, but I will crap if he selects Huckabee. McCain will show himself to be somebody who can't run a campaign.
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Condi Rice or Liddy Dole would be fine.
you might as well run the KFC Colonel Sanders, in terms of excitement.
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