TCU not a must win

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by jay santos

Where does BYU drop if we lose a close game to TCU?

It's a completely irrelevant question because the BCS will never allow a 1 loss Non-BCS team into their party, no matter what your numbers and stat sheets tell you.

BYU will not nor will any other Non-BCS Team ever be included into a BCS Game with 1 loss.

Until PROVEN otherwise and it actually HAPPENS then get back to me then with an "I told you so."

[TripletDaddy]

I have to agree with the Italian Stallion on this one.

The BCS was created to keep the cash within the 6 conferences. The only reason Utah, Hawaii, and BSu were even allowed to come to the table was because they were without loss (it also helped to stave off lawsuits).

What possible economic reason (or athletic reason) would the BCS have for including a non-BCS school that already has a loss? The country wants glamour matchups, not crazy regional teams.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by T Blue

At least 10 - 12 spots depending on who else loses that week.

So 7 down to 17 or 19?

And we don't climb back up 5 spots over the next 6 weeks with impressive wins and beating a top 10 Utah?

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I have to agree with the Italian Stallion on this one.

The BCS was created to keep the cash within the 6 conferences. The only reason Utah, Hawaii, and BSu were even allowed to come to the table was because they were without loss (it also helped to stave off lawsuits).

What possible economic reason (or athletic reason) would the BCS have for including a non-BCS school that already has a loss? The country wants glamour matchups, not crazy regional teams.

You guys understand there are rules and a formula, right?

Top ranking non-BCS makes it if they are in the top 12. If a BCS champion is below 16, that drops to 16. If the ACC beats itself up a little, it's likely top 16 is all that is needed.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by jay santos

You guys understand there are rules and a formula, right?

Top ranking non-BCS makes it if they are in the top 12. If a BCS champion is below 16, that drops to 16. If the ACC beats itself up a little, it's likely top 16 is all that is needed.

You understand the BCS Cartel right?

[ERCougar]

These X-files junkies who think these decisions are made by men in smoke-filled rooms were also saying a few weeks ago that there was NO chance BYU would be considered for the BCS title game.

It's early in the season and a close TCU loss, followed by a series of big wins, including one over a top 10 Utah team on the road, would give us a chance. They have to follow the formula and there's no mysterious man who cares enough about BYU to orchestrate their exclusion from the mix. I'm not sure our poor SOS could handle us losing, but jay's point assumed that UW and UCLA turn things around a bit as well. In any case, our exclusion would have nothing to do with business interests or other such conspiracy theories--it would come down to computer rankings and pollsters.

The persecution complex/conspiracy theorist level among otherwise intelligent Mormons is just amazing.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

These X-files junkies who think these decisions are made by men in smoke-filled rooms were also saying a few weeks ago that there was NO chance BYU would be considered for the BCS title game.

It's early in the season and a close TCU loss, followed by a series of big wins, including one over a top 10 Utah team on the road, would give us a chance. They have to follow the formula and there's no mysterious man who cares enough about BYU to orchestrate their exclusion from the mix. I'm not sure our poor SOS could handle us losing, but jay's point assumed that UW and UCLA turn things around a bit as well. In any case, our exclusion would have nothing to do with business interests or other such conspiracy theories--it would come down to computer rankings and pollsters.

The persecution complex/conspiracy theorist level among otherwise intelligent Mormons is just amazing.

Being mormon has nothing to do with it. ANY non BCS team will be excluded with one loss because the pollsters will drop them like a rock....much more harsh than when a BCS team loses. What does being LDS have to do with this? It really isnt even about BYU. It is simply bcs v non bcs.

Is it only coincidence that all the non-bcs have been undefeated, while most BCS teams have had a loss (or 2)?

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

These X-files junkies who think these decisions are made by men in smoke-filled rooms were also saying a few weeks ago that there was NO chance BYU would be considered for the BCS title game.

It's early in the season and a close TCU loss, followed by a series of big wins, including one over a top 10 Utah team on the road, would give us a chance. They have to follow the formula and there's no mysterious man who cares enough about BYU to orchestrate their exclusion from the mix. I'm not sure our poor SOS could handle us losing, but jay's point assumed that UW and UCLA turn things around a bit as well. In any case, our exclusion would have nothing to do with business interests or other such conspiracy theories--it would come down to computer rankings and pollsters.

The persecution complex/conspiracy theorist level among otherwise intelligent Mormons is just amazing.

A few years ago the conspiracy theorists said there would never no way be a non-BCS in a BCS bowl game. That barrier fell.

Now they are saying there will never be a one loss non-BCS bowl team. That barrier will fall, too.

They will say there will never be a non-BCS team in the title game. That one's tougher, but if a great non-BCS team comes along, it will fall too.

[jay santos]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Being mormon has nothing to do with it. ANY non BCS team will be excluded with one loss because the pollsters will drop them like a rock....much more harsh than when a BCS team loses. What does being LDS have to do with this? It really isnt even about BYU. It is simply bcs v non bcs.

Is it only coincidence that all the non-bcs have been undefeated, while most BCS teams have had a loss (or 2)?

The top 12 rule have only been in place one (two?--can't remember now) year. I can show you that there are several one loss non-BCS teams over the years that would have made it with the current formula.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by jay santos

The top 12 rule have only been in place one (two?--can't remember now) year. I can show you that there are several one loss non-BCS teams over the years that would have made it with the current formula.

Like I said.....if that ever happens then you can come back with a big ol' fat neener neener.