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Old 03-03-2009, 07:03 PM   #11
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Even when the redistribution of wealth succeeds without the disastrous consequences you mention (and it will succeed), guys like Archaea will say it still isn't "fair" that those making 250K+ get taxed more. Since all the observable evidence in the world shows it's not bad for the economy, the right-wingers run behind some nebulus notion of "fair" over and over again.
You think the Right does this? Are you sure you're watching American politics?
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Does Obama and his ilk want Limbaugh and conservative policies to fail?
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Does Obama and his ilk want Limbaugh and conservative policies to fail?
Oh heavens no. They did everything in their power to ensure that Bush's policies were a smashing success.
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Oh heavens no. They did everything in their power to ensure that Bush's policies were a smashing success.
Because they are more Christlike.
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Oh heavens no. They did everything in their power to ensure that Bush's policies were a smashing success.
They certainly didn't hope his policies would fail. Nobody was cheering on the failure of the surge, for example. People were strongly opposed to the surge, believing that it would fail, but their opposition was tied to the belief that the policy was going to be a failure and, therefore, bad for America.

Nobody I am aware of actually said they "hope" the surge will fail, because that would be stupid, a trait liberals, apparently unlike conservatives on this board, do not cherish.
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Because they are more Christlike.
Precisely.
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They certainly didn't hope his policies would fail. Nobody was cheering on the failure of the surge, for example.
No, they simply tried to proclaim the surge as a failure as soon as humanly possible (hello Harry) in the hopes that it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy by eroding public support enough to force the president's hand and get him to withdraw the troops.

Same friggin' difference.
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No, they simply tried to proclaim the surge as a failure as soon as humanly possible (hello Harry) in the hopes that it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy by eroding public support enough to force the president's hand and get him to withdraw the troops.

Same friggin' difference.
Democrats were cheerleading the war's failure for most of its duration. If that's not rooting for failure, then there's no such thing.
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Democrats were cheerleading the war's failure for most of its duration. If that's not rooting for failure, then there's no such thing.
Hardly. They weren't cheerleading the war's failure. They were simply pointing out the obvious (that it WAS failing). If you honestly can't draw a distinction between noting that something IS failing from HOPING it will fail, well, I can't help you there.
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Hardly. They weren't cheerleading the war's failure. They were simply pointing out the obvious (that it WAS failing). If you honestly can't draw a distinction between noting that something IS failing from HOPING it will fail, well, I can't help you there.
The person you need to help is Harry Reid. He declared the surge a failure before a single additional boot hit the ground.
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