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It wouldn't surprise me if many men on this site would have no problem driving their daughters to the abortion clinic. |
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08-20-2008, 02:12 PM | #24 | |
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I don't get the pro-choice/pro-abortion claim you make. There just has to be a reason that goes beyond where life begins. I haven't heard it articulated. I myself would never drive a daughter or grandaughter to an abortion clinic. My own reasons have to do with it lessening the value of life and the importance of chastity. On the other hand, I don't view someone who has an abortion as a leper. I also have never believed in anti birth control even when the church called it evil. |
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08-20-2008, 02:43 PM | #25 |
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If you're okay with birth control, I don't get why you're not okay with MAP. What's the difference btw that and in IUD? Or why is suspending ovulation through the pill much different. And yes, it even begins to extend to early abortions, too.
But what's really rich is how all you men are trying to tell hypothetical daughters what to do. See, you don't get to do that. Tough. |
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Do you feel that way in all matters. Since women don't experience the same sexual drive as men, do you think woman should have any opinion on men committing adultery? |
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I agree with this; consensual life creation versus forced life creation -- the intention and purpose matter.
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I don't think that having a baby and then giving it up for adoption is detrimental to a woman's soul. In fact, I think it is a selfless act of incredible magnitude. It can be heartbreaking for the girl, but ultimately she chose to give the baby a life and a family a baby. Some things that are heartbreaking only impact our soul for good. Quote:
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What do you think it does to a daughter to see a parent encourage and enable the destruction of life so easily and quickly?
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My wife says one of the most effective parental talks she ever had with her dad as a teenager was when they discussed pregnancy and what he would do if she ever got pregnant. The choice would no longer be hers: she'd carry the baby to term and give it up for adoption. She didn't think she would have the strength to give up a baby, and so it was one motivation for her to remain abstinent.
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I'm not an expert on any of this, and my opinion goes back and forth.
IUDs have been mentioned a couple of times. My (possibly incorrect) impression is that the MAP works similarly to an IUD, an egg may be fertilized, but not implanted. So, those of you who opposethe MAP, do you also oppose IUDs? Or am I missing an important distinction. |
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