Is Obama crazy?

[exUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

The per-female-capita rate of abortion in this country has declined every year since 1989, with the steepest rates of decline during the double Dem tenure of Bill's first administration, and the rate over the last twelve years unchanged regardless of which party held the Oval Office or the legislative majority.

exUte, I got lost somewhere around "adulterous affair."

He should be a role model and moral leader. Just pointing out what the President's behavior has on the moral fibre of the citizenry. Big determinant.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

The per-female-capita rate of abortion in this country has declined every year since 1989, with the steepest rates of decline during the double Dem tenure of Bill's first administration, and the rate over the last twelve years unchanged regardless of which party held the Oval Office or the legislative majority.

exUte, I got lost somewhere around "adulterous affair."

If this is supposed to demonstrate that the man in office has no influence or impact on the issue, you lost me. There are lots of forces in play at the issue, and the President is just one (although powerful and important).

That abortions fell during the Clinton administration may reflect public awareness and other efforts, such as two failed Republican attempts (vetoed by Clinton) in the late 90's to restrict partial-birth abortions. Who knows but that a pro-life President would've brought the numbers even lower.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by RedHeadGal

So "health of the mother" is limited to her physical health? Or are you including emotional health here?

to be of the wrong gender than what the mother wanted? Say she wanted a boy and she found out it was a girl and thus didn't want a girl. It was causing her to be very discouraged.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

The per-female-capita rate of abortion in this country has declined every year since 1989, with the steepest rates of decline during the double Dem tenure of Bill's first administration, and the rate over the last twelve years unchanged regardless of which party held the Oval Office or the legislative majority.

exUte, I got lost somewhere around "adulterous affair."

In case you forgot what they involve, here's a link:

http://www.nrlc.org/ABORTION/pba/diagram.html

And Bill Clinton vetoed the outlaw of this procedure. Diety must really enjoy the destruction of human life in this manner. RedHeadGal can chime in as well.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by exUte

Hey Barb, do you favor paritial birth abortions? RedHeadGal can chime in as well.

I'm a big fan of abortion all the way around. What's not to love? Excellent population control mechanism. Plus, it's more prevalent among the lower classes so you keep down the numbers of the riff-raff...makes for fewer poor kids to grow up and vote democrat.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Tex

If this is supposed to demonstrate that the man in office has no influence or impact on the issue, you lost me. There are lots of forces in play at the issue, and the President is just one (although powerful and important).

That abortions fell during the Clinton administration may reflect public awareness and other efforts, such as two failed Republican attempts (vetoed by Clinton) in the late 90's to restrict partial-birth abortions. Who knows but that a pro-life President would've brought the numbers even lower.

It was meant to show that in two decades, AFAICT, there's been no correlation between who's in power (legislatively or executively) and the number of abortions in this country. Now, you bring up the question of causation. I'm actually very curious as to why we saw a steeper decline in the early-mid nineties. I've poked around and can't find any explanation.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

Of course abortion is promoted. For years if not decades, abstinence and adoption have been ridiculed by the Left--in particular the radical feminist movement--as viable alternatives. Legislation enacted merely to inform women on the option of adoption has been fought tooth and nail. Efforts to curtail abortion in any degree, such as late-term and partial-birth abortions, have been demonized and opposed.

The use of the term "rare" in the cliche "safe, legal, and rare" may be the largest lie in the Democrat platform.



Because abortion is no longer (if it ever was) a yes-we-have-it/no-we-don't Roe v. Wade decision.

Don't be silly, Tex. We are talking about the mainstream Democratic Party position, not the position of some extremists within the party. Your dishonesty on this topic is par for the course. How about the efforts of many conservatives to prevent sex education or the availability of birth control/contraceptives? Were THEY promoting abortion too by their actions? Give me a break.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I'm a big fan of abortion all the way around. What's not to love? Excellent population control mechanism. Plus, it's more prevalent among the lower classes so you keep down the numbers of the riff-raff...makes for fewer poor kids to grow up and vote democrat.

I wish there were more abortion clinics in malls and other convenient places.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I wish there were more abortion clinics in malls and other convenient places.

Wal-mart. We want to aim for the target demographic.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

It was meant to show that in two decades, AFAICT, there's been no correlation between who's in power (legislatively or executively) and the number of abortions in this country.

I know what it was meant to show. It is, as I said, an oversimplification.