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That said, Bush ended up being far more like his father than we all recognized. He comes from that "country club" Republican establishment, rather than being a movement conservative. Barnes lists NCLB and the prescription drug program expansion among his accomplishments, both of which are not my favorites. I also hated his "abandoning capitalism to save it" approach to the recent financial crisis. I've said this before: I think Bush will be catalogued as a very average president. I think he will get lots of credit in the end for keeping the country safe, an assessment that will be tempered by how Iraq eventually turns out. To the fair minded observer, he hasn't been a terrible president, certainly not with the likes of Jimmy Carter. The suggestion is truly ridiculous.
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He abandoned fiscal policies resembling anything Republican, he eliminated civil liberties, and he was a PR nightmare. I don't hate him as a person, but I despise how he dismantled the Republican Party, as many conservatives sat idly by.
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That's not a conservative argument but a statist argument.
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It's not ephemeral. It's an indisputable fact that the country has not been attacked again, which no person on Sept 12, 2001, would've thought likely. We can debate the degree to which Bush is responsible for that, but the fact remains it occurred on his watch.
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As for the Republican party, the short term domestic impact of his foreign policy has been to turn the government completely over to Democrats, much to my chagrin. But, the pendulum always swings. Ho hum. Whether they can keep it will be an interesting show.
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1. Didn't get OBL.
2. Certainly didn't prevent massive terrorist attacks against our Western allies. 3. The number of American GI deaths in Iraq surpasses the number of deaths on 9/11, by a substantial amount. So we need to believe that the deaths in Iraq prevented even greater number of deaths from an attack worse than 9/11. Not to mention all the maimed and disabled and brain-injured. Not to mention all the civilian deaths. We are to believe that Iraq is somehow related to no terrorist attack in the USA. How many Americans were murdered while Bush was president? Let's compare that to the number of people who died on 9/11. Unrelated? Plenty of Americans are being terrorized RIGHT NOW by rampant crime. War on terror my ass. War on terror=chance for $ and power. |
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And now, Obama the anti-2nd amendment President is getting ready to take charge. I'd rather take my chances with terrorist strikes.
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The entire Western world is against us, eh? Besides, the Euro-weeny, socialists disliking us is probably a sign that we are doing something RIGHT. |
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