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FMCoug · 07-31-2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

BRM specifically vetoed it saying it was false doctrine.

Interesting. Did he say why? Was it the emphasis on grace vs. works?

Archaea · 07-31-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FMCoug

Interesting. Did he say why? Was it the emphasis on grace vs. works?

BRM was a Calvinist and did not believe in grace.

Sleeping in EQ · 07-31-2007, 12:35 PM

I don't want more correlation or micro-management from Salt Lake, and I don't want more Mormon pop. Bishops being encouraged to (and taking) more local leeway in terms of intercultural preferences in instrumentation and arrangement will be good.

More of what Sis. Knight is doing down in Vegas sounds great.

The "It's too bad you had to sing Amazing Grace" comment that was cited is exibit 15876A of what I was going on about yesterday.

ChinoCoug · 07-31-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

BRM was a Calvinist and did not believe in grace.

I don't get the joke.

BlueK · 07-31-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

BRM was a Calvinist and did not believe in grace.

maybe a Mormon type of "Calvinist." Obviously real Calvinists believe in grace, but only for a very small number of people.

ChinoCoug · 07-31-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK

maybe a Mormon type of "Calvinist." Obviously real Calvinists believe in grace, but only for a very small number of people.

You can't be a Mormon and a Calvinist at the same time. You can't subscribe to TULIP.

jay santos · 07-31-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

You can't be a Mormon and a Calvinist at the same time. You can't subscribe to TULIP.

The L is the biggest problem. You could make a case for T,U,I, and P.

ChinoCoug · 07-31-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

The L is the biggest problem. You could make a case for T,U,I, and P.

T maybe. U doesn't square with D&C 121:40. "Irresistible grace" = no free will. I don't know how you can believe "once saved always saved."

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Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	I don't want more correlation or micro-management from Salt Lake, and I don't want more Mormon pop. Bishops being encouraged to (and taking) more local leeway in terms of intercultural preferences in instrumentation and arrangement will be good. More of what Sis. Knight is doing down in Vegas sounds great. The "It's too bad you had to sing Amazing Grace" comment that was cited is exibit 15876A of what I was going on about yesterday. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies. Last edited by Sleeping in EQ; 07-31-2007 at 12:37 PM.