03-06-2008, 07:48 PM | #21 |
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I don't know the answer. But I don't think it is because Mormons are so knowledgeable and accepting of mental health treatment.
I've been thinking about this for the past few days. Should one of the fruits of the gospel be happiness in our lives? We are constantly falling short, and being told that we are falling short. We are given a set of tasks that are virtually impossible to complete. We are told that there is no guarantee of heaven unless your calling and election is made sure, and that happens to almost no one. What a luxury to be in a religion where if you merely accept Christ as your savior, you are saved. The amount of stuff that is placed on the men in the church is truly extraordinary. Does this explain why men are leaving the church, if the Pew statistics are true? I don't know. GBH seemed to want to tell us to be sunny and optimistic, that we are doing a good job, maybe as a counter to the message "you are a failure" that is so often delivered. When people are happy they will perform better. When they are happy, they will sell their religion. When they are unhappy they will not do these things. |
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03-06-2008, 08:09 PM | #23 |
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I would love to see those figures broken out along gender lines. My guess based on anecdotal evidence is that north of 75% of those reporting mental illness are female. I wonder how many of that 75% are women who know.
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03-06-2008, 08:09 PM | #24 |
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What church do you go to?
We are told that?
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03-06-2008, 08:09 PM | #25 | |
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I'm going to keep doing my best and working hard. The rest will take care of itself. The Church is not my master.
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03-06-2008, 08:09 PM | #26 | |
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I think if you compare that list to what men in the church are asked to do, it doesn't compare. She freaking feels guilty about the decision to serve a mission or not? Hello, think of the guilt placed on the MEN who don't serve. Plus it is harder to ACTUALLY serve than wonder if you should have been a sister missionary. I'm not saying that there aren't pressures being a mother and a wife. It's just that men have the pressure of being fathers and husbands AND church leaders which women just plain don't have, or have in far fewer numbers. |
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03-06-2008, 08:11 PM | #27 |
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Try reading the report.........
it may answer your inquiry. My guess is that 75% of them are ute grads. They don't know if they are coming or going and that would be very depressing.
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I don't remember having feelings of inadequacy, necessarily, but I do remember wondering why God would care so much about trivia. My mental health problems had to do with what I considered to be intellectual bondage -- fearing where the evidence might lead, and trying to figure out a way to make it fit into Mormon theology. Were I still a Mormon, I would have a much healthier perspective on these issues. I was much too motivated by guilt and much too trusting in the leadership/bureaucracy. Even on my mission I emphasized grace much more than the church probably would have liked, but all those years of being told that I needed to work my way to heaven were hard to overcome, and I still felt the burden of imperfection. I doubt this question has a clean answer, but I imagine that the lack of alcohol use and the church's emphasis on works/perfection account for some of it. |
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03-06-2008, 08:12 PM | #29 |
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The drive to achieve is often motivated by a feeling of deep unsatisfaction and hunger. So ironically, the people that work the hardest to achieve are often the least-satisfied people. There is no "top of the mountain" for these people. I think i fit in this category of people that will never be fully satisfied (we have discussed this before, Archaea is another). The question is whether the church pushes people torwards this, or rather, does nothing to discourage it.
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03-06-2008, 08:13 PM | #30 |
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If you have poor mental health it's most likely the result of unresovled sins.
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