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And realize, I'm talking about 'Mormon intellectuals,' ie. people's who are recognized for their intellectual work in the field of 'Mormonism.' I am not talking about 'intellectual Mormons,' who are people who are recognized for their intellectual work in any particular field, and they also happen to be Mormon. |
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Intellectuals who will be remembered for their intellectual work in the field of Mormonism. |
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I guess my hangup had to do with Archaea's original question. It seemed like he was talking about a different kind of intellectual project other than 'inspiring faith.' If you are talking about 'intellectualism' of a different sort (something other than poetry) then please define it. |
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What do you want to list? Mormon intellectuals expanding the ideas of the Mormon religion...take my list and All-Americans and everyone would have a few more to add. Do you want Mormon intellectuals exploring Mormon/BofM/Bible history with the purpose of defending the faith? Throw in all the FARMS and other scholars. Do you want Mormon intellectuals exploring Mormon/BofM/Bible history with the purpose of tearing down the faith or rocking the boat? Throw in your Sunstone publishers and controversial BYU prof's. Do you want anti-Mormon pseudo intellectuals trying to attack Mormons? Seattle Ute, Robin, and thousand others. Do you want Mormons who are intellectuals in their field? We've got hundreds--go to the academia journals of each field. This is the dumbest thread yet. |
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As for your FARMS people, I guess it would depend on the meaning of 'intellectual work,' but they don't hold much credibility outside of a very very small circle. Last edited by Robin; 08-04-2006 at 09:22 PM. |
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What exactly is the definition of an "intellectual" that you're looking for? You cited Martin Luther as an intellectual-- does a man have to leave the church in order to qualify as an "intellectual"? If they are NOT operating under the premise that the church is true, but nevertheless produce studies favorable to the church, they are merely apologists. If they ARE operating under the premise that the church is true, then they are either artists or they have no credibility. If, however, their studies hint that the church may not be true, THEN they are intellectuals? I suspect we are all letting fuzzy definitions be filled in by our bias, Mormons not excluded. Let's try to pin down exactly what is being referred to instead of trying to decide who's on what side of an undrawn line.
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I call bull crap on your slam on FARMS. Religious based academia ought to be evaluated against its other religious-based-academia peers. Of course your atheist scientists and researchers will turn their nose at them AND any other religion apologizing scholars. FARMS and other LDS academics are doing more in their arena than their peers in other religions. I recently read a Christian scholar critiquing a FARMS publication on Central America anthropology and said he didn't agree but said that LDS scholars are kicking Christian scholars butts when it comes to research. Wish I could remember where I found it to give the link. LDS scholars are also some of the guys leading the whole Dead Sea scrolls research. |
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