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Old 11-30-2007, 03:16 PM   #21
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Is there some reason why schools have to limit their recruiting to a 60 mile radius from the school?
There isn't, but why can't Wyoming do that? Heck, even Boise seems to be able to field a quality team year in and year out.

It would be interesting to take, say, the last 10 years of players for each Div IA team, and plot a map for each school displaying their recruiting radius.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:23 PM   #22
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SLC is 5 1/2 hours from Laramie. Denver is much closer if I'm not mistaken.
Des Moines is 6 hours from Lincoln Nebraska and Texas is like 10 hours
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:49 PM   #23
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You know, what happened to Wyoming? Didn't they used to field some decent teams? I have some memories in the 90's of BYU playing some well-fought games with them, and I thought they even had some decent (winning) records.

But basically since the inception of the conference they've been terrible.
The University of Utah murdered Wyoming football in 1996. That year Wyoming had a great team, top 25 caliber, and won their division of the super Wac. They lost the championship game to BYU, and the Copper Bowl took an inferior Utah team over Wyoming. From that point forward, Wyoming never had a chance.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:58 PM   #24
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The University of Utah murdered Wyoming football in 1996. That year Wyoming had a great team, top 25 caliber, and won their division of the super Wac. They lost the championship game to BYU, and the Copper Bowl took an inferior Utah team over Wyoming. From that point forward, Wyoming never had a chance.
I am not sure if there is a fanbase whose expectations for their program exceed the programs potential more than WYO. They face a huge challenge of fielding competitive football. They have plenty of money, but not a lot of folks (both players and coaches want to live in Laramie) but they have no recruiting base. It is really hard to find that many unwanted diamonds in the rough.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:09 PM   #25
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If I was San Diego, I would give up trying to recruit against UCLA and USC. Whats the point? I would go to Texas, Arizona and places in the MidWest and find some solid kids that are 2nd tier recruits. Guys that will play for midlevel colleges. I can't imagine they would not be thrilled to play in San Diego and play in a good, step below the big time, conference.

Seriously, this conference is Utah and BYU and to a slightly lesser extent, TCU. New Mexico is generally pretty average in football and basketball...UNLV is generally pretty good in hoops and horrific in football...I like Air Force, but I can't imagine them ever being a real football power or a hoops power (even though both have happened at various times for them in the past 15 years). Wyoming will always have one or two great years and 10 real bad ones.
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Problem is that a lot of kids won't want to be that far from home, esp. the poor ones.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:14 PM   #27
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If I was San Diego, I would give up trying to recruit against UCLA and USC. Whats the point? I would go to Texas, Arizona and places in the MidWest and find some solid kids that are 2nd tier recruits. Guys that will play for midlevel colleges. I can't imagine they would not be thrilled to play in San Diego and play in a good, step below the big time, conference.

Seriously, this conference is Utah and BYU and to a slightly lesser extent, TCU. New Mexico is generally pretty average in football and basketball...UNLV is generally pretty good in hoops and horrific in football...I like Air Force, but I can't imagine them ever being a real football power or a hoops power (even though both have happened at various times for them in the past 15 years). Wyoming will always have one or two great years and 10 real bad ones.
It would greatly behoove SDSU to reach out to Marshal Faulk and get him involved in the program at any level it could...and he should talk to every single recruit possible.

That would be step one, IMO.

I agree that SDSU shouldn't fool itself into thinking that it can recruit against USC & UCLA. But if all the other WAC and MWC teams can get leftovers, so can SDSU. But like Rocky said, it's going to take a guy with Meyer's charisma and motivation to get that done.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:41 PM   #28
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If I was San Diego, I would give up trying to recruit against UCLA and USC. Whats the point? I would go to Texas, Arizona and places in the MidWest and find some solid kids that are 2nd tier recruits. Guys that will play for midlevel colleges. I can't imagine they would not be thrilled to play in San Diego and play in a good, step below the big time, conference.

Seriously, this conference is Utah and BYU and to a slightly lesser extent, TCU. New Mexico is generally pretty average in football and basketball...UNLV is generally pretty good in hoops and horrific in football...I like Air Force, but I can't imagine them ever being a real football power or a hoops power (even though both have happened at various times for them in the past 15 years). Wyoming will always have one or two great years and 10 real bad ones.
There is plenty of talent in CA for SDSU to recruit. Boise got 2 of the best HS wrs in the state last year. These freshmen are major contributors. Boise did not have to beat USC for these guys since USC recruits nationally. They did beat UCLA but Karl Dorell sucks
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There is plenty of talent in CA for SDSU to recruit. Boise got 2 of the best HS wrs in the state last year. These freshmen are major contributors. Boise did not have to beat USC for these guys since USC recruits nationally. They did beat UCLA but Karl Dorell sucks
Oh, I understand that...but it appears that SDSU often spends a lot of time going after the ungettables. Yeah, Utah can go after the top 5 players in the country every year. But you are most likely wasting your time.

SDSU has a lot to offer in terms of college experience. They need to use it. Good point from Drum in using Marshall Faulk. That would be a great start. Try something else and see if you can work something out with the Chargers and the Aztecs to get some pro players or others somehow involved in the program.

Utah and BYU both recruit well...there is no reason th
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:53 AM   #30
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SDSU is actually considering dropping football altogether. There is so little interest in the team that every year they lose over two million dollars. Throughout the rest of division one, college football is usually the cash cow that allows universities to afford all of the Title IX programs and doozies like volleyball and skiing.
I have heard this also. There is no interest locally and if the Chargers build the new stadium they are talking about 30 mins from San Diego that would be the death nail I think.
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