Hitchens gets waterboarded

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

That's great, and I have a lot of respect for Hitchens for doing that.

I offered to waterboard Snipe at a BYU game. I 'm glad he didn't say yes, because maybe I would have killed him or accidentally harmed him.

but it would not have been torture, thank goodness.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by BlueK

but it would not have been torture, thank goodness.

It is kind of interesting that you can die from it, but it isn't torture. It isn't particularly slow either. Nor pleasant. But isn't torture.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BlueK

but it would not have been torture, thank goodness.

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

It is kind of interesting that you can die from it, but it isn't torture. It isn't particularly slow either. Nor pleasant. But isn't torture.

Mostly because no one can define it.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

Mostly because no one can define it.

Much like you can't define "cruel and unusual" but you know that executing a rapist isn't.

You just know it.

LOL.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Much like you can't define "cruel and unusual" but you know that executing a rapist isn't.

You just know it.

LOL.

So you're admitting you don't really know what torture is and isn't.

Sort of undermines your sanctimony.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

So you're admitting you don't really know what torture is and isn't.

Sort of undermines your sanctimony.

I'm not Cali, you can't play the same dumb games.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm not Cali, you can't play the same dumb games.

I can vouch for this. Waters' dumb games are of a wholly different character.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

It is kind of interesting that you can die from it, but it isn't torture. It isn't particularly slow either. Nor pleasant. But isn't torture.

When we do the same things to the evil enemy that they would do to us, we have lost our moral high ground and have turned completely against what we're supposed to be standing for. This is something the US has never supposed to have been about. Oh yeah, it's really not torture, so it's ok. Maybe we should start beheading everyone at Guantanamo and send the tape to Al-Jazeera for broadcast. The funny thing to me is, there are probably people on this board who would be all in favor of that. Those people are called "neocons." Time to vote them out.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Tex

Mostly because no one can define it.

sounds like Hitchens defined it for himself.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BlueK

When we do the same things to the evil enemy that they would do to us, we have lost our moral high ground and have turned completely against what we're supposed to be standing for. This is something the US has never supposed to have been about. Oh yeah, it's really not torture, so it's ok. Maybe we should start beheading everyone at Guantanamo and send the tape to Al-Jazeera for broadcast. The funny thing to me is, there are probably people on this board who would be all in favor of that. Those people are called "neocons." Time to vote them out.

Gross hyperbole.

Originally Posted by BlueK

sounds like Hitchens defined it for himself.

Good for him.