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FMCoug · 09-01-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ma'ake

My hunch is that overall more are against Obama because of race than those who favor him because of race.

There is no way to quantify this because nobody would tell the truth, but I suspect the opposite. Are there some hard core racists out there who are as you say? Sure. But there are MANY more blacks who will vote for him just because he is black.

It is sad that we are still so tribal in 2008 ... yet it is true.

MikeWaters · 09-01-2008, 05:21 PM

in a recent national poll, I think it was 5% that said they would not vote for a black candidate. So you can double or triple that to get the true figure.

Clark Addison · 09-01-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FMCoug

There is no way to quantify this because nobody would tell the truth, but I suspect the opposite. Are there some hard core racists out there who are as you say? Sure. But there are MANY more blacks who will vote for him just because he is black.

It is sad that we are still so tribal in 2008 ... yet it is true.

I don't disagree with your last point, but I think you are overestimating the marginal Black vote he will get. Over the last two presidential elections, the Black vote went 88% and 90% to the Democrats. Obama has recently been polling in the 86% to 93% range among Black voters. Even at the top of that range, he would only be picking up an additional 500,000 or 700,000 votes. I don't have numbers the other way, but I am pretty confident he will be losing that many due to his race.

MikeWaters · 09-01-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark Addison

I don't disagree with your last point, but I think you are overestimating the marginal Black vote he will get. Over the last two presidential elections, the Black vote went 88% and 90% to the Democrats. Obama has recently been polling in the 86% to 93% range among Black voters. Even at the top of that range, he would only be picking up an additional 500,000 or 700,000 votes. I don't have numbers the other way, but I am pretty confident he will be losing that many due to his race.

there is no way to quantify anything. didn't you already know that?

09-01-2008, 05:21 PM	#22
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	in a recent national poll, I think it was 5% that said they would not vote for a black candidate. So you can double or triple that to get the true figure.