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MikeWaters · 07-01-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by landpoke

Game & Fish just puts out the data they collect from observations on the ground. They offer a few graphs so you can see trends, but they offer no conclusions.

Billy Bob fills out a little report at the end of his day. Yeah, I bet that's scientific.

landpoke · 07-01-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Billy Bob fills out a little report at the end of his day. Yeah, I bet that's scientific.

I don't care if Billy Bob has to take off his shoes to count the grouse in a lek. The numbers are the numbers and the numbers are going up.

landpoke · 07-01-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

I bet Wyoming Game & Fish regulators are wusses compared to Washington and Oregon ones. They're probably shills, of industry not environmentalists.

How dare you disparage the brave men and women of the Wyoming Game & Fish.

MikeWaters · 07-01-2008, 05:47 PM

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Conservation Status

Populations declining; has disappeared from a number of states and provinces.

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAbou...ge-Grouse.html

But the state of Wyoming, non-scientifically, says numbers are up?

myboynoah · 07-01-2008, 05:52 PM

Sage Grouse need an organization like this championing their cause.

http://www.ducks.org/

landpoke · 07-01-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAbou...ge-Grouse.html

But the state of Wyoming, non-scientifically, says numbers are up?

That page relies on pre-1999 numbers where, due to drought, sage grouse numbers were down. Starting in 1999 and continuing through the present the numbers have rebounded to, and surpassed, pre-drought levels. It's been a wet couple of years, I expect the numbers will be up even more this year.

creekster · 07-01-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by landpoke

That page relies on pre-1999 numbers where, due to drought, sage grouse numbers were down. Starting in 1999 and continuing through the present the numbers have rebounded to, and surpassed, pre-drought levels. It's been a wet couple of years, I expect the numbers will be up even more this year.

Did your peers tell you to say that?

MikeWaters · 07-01-2008, 06:00 PM

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...iwnqgD91KTL880

That's funny. Drillers think that having a well on every 10 acres of federal land won't have impact on wildlife.

Screw the drillers!

landpoke · 07-01-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by creekster

Did your peers tell you to say that?

Yes. Well sort of, it was our lobbyist.

landpoke · 07-01-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...iwnqgD91KTL880

That's funny. Drillers think that having a well on every 10 acres of federal land won't have impact on wildlife.

Screw the drillers!

Indeed. Screw the driller. Screw all those who make your cushy academic life possible. Screw those whose product brought about the Green Revolution feeding millions of starving people around the world. Screw those whose product allowed for new drugs, clean water, cheap transportation. Screw those who provide for the very way of life we now enjoy. Screw them right to hell.

07-01-2008, 05:52 PM	#35
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	Sage Grouse need an organization like this championing their cause. http://www.ducks.org/ __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

07-01-2008, 06:00 PM	#38
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j...iwnqgD91KTL880 That's funny. Drillers think that having a well on every 10 acres of federal land won't have impact on wildlife. Screw the drillers!