06-03-2008, 03:20 PM | #31 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,177
|
Quote:
I think the church could do a lot without changing doctrine. I don't think you'd see a person struggling with a coffee habit give the same emotion as a gay Mormon when it comes to feeling ostracized. |
|
06-03-2008, 03:21 PM | #32 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 67
|
Quote:
|
|
06-03-2008, 03:24 PM | #33 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,596
|
Quote:
I'm not saying we can't be more compassionate, but let's be fair here: there is a vocal, public element of the gay community that is hostile and in-your-face. It's not surprising that some people may have a pejorative reaction to someone who identifies themselves in whatever degree with that movement. |
|
06-03-2008, 03:25 PM | #34 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,177
|
Quote:
I'm of the opinion that it's better to explore the issue honestly, than to ignore it or mask your feelings with fake pc language. I believe we're all bigots and racists, the only measure is how maliciously you do it. |
|
06-03-2008, 03:26 PM | #35 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,177
|
Quote:
|
|
06-03-2008, 03:31 PM | #36 |
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 67
|
I pity the coffee-drinking flamer who wears colored dress shirts on Sundays.
|
06-03-2008, 03:31 PM | #37 | |
Demiurge
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 36,365
|
Quote:
The reasonable middle is ignored. Of course, you are the right winger who is yelling loudly about radical gays in this thread. Why? Because it serves your interests. |
|
06-03-2008, 03:31 PM | #38 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NOVA
Posts: 3,005
|
Quote:
__________________
太初有道 |
|
06-03-2008, 03:32 PM | #39 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,596
|
Quote:
The primary reason homosexuals feel ostracized in the church is because the church's doctrine explicitly denies them the opportunity to act on those desires--desires some of them claim are God-given and/or that they have no control over. This is the chief complaint about the church's doctrine on gays. And you can see how people unable to think rationally on the issue (read: Mike Waters) react when you suggest trying to "rehab" a gay person. I think BDB's point is a fair one. We CAN be more compassionate and understanding, but the thorn for gay folks vis-a-vis the church IS the doctrine. Last edited by Tex; 06-03-2008 at 03:43 PM. |
|
06-03-2008, 03:42 PM | #40 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,177
|
Quote:
|
|
Bookmarks |
|
|