12-13-2007, 03:12 PM | #31 | |
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A bunch of "opinion leaders" get their panties in a wad and start accusing broad swaths of individuals of being racists. What else is new. Happens everyday on CG, why not elsewhere?
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12-13-2007, 03:16 PM | #32 | |
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OK, so you think the church should simply announce that all those old guys with beards werre a bunch of rascists and we're very sorry about that but, hey, we're on board now so what the heck. WHat effect in the future will that have on the church and its position in the world? Personally, I think a more prudent approach, especially becasue of the current situation, is important.
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12-13-2007, 03:19 PM | #33 | |
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The religion was started in an era where prejudice against blacks wasn't considered racism by everyone. The people who were in or joined the religion think that what their leaders do comes from God. So if I was a member in good standing, I would have to think God was a racist following your logic and that currently he is anti women and a homo-phobe. I didn't, I like other members and leaders groped for reasons for this situation. I never heard anyone tell me I should hate blacks, never. My father as a matter of fact was very pro the civil rights movements. He was a democrat. My grandfather loved the Indians and was always very positive in his conversation about black people. Why fight an old battle. If you are truly upset about this, do something about a current descriminatory practice. Lobby for women and practicing gays to get the Priesthood. |
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12-13-2007, 03:20 PM | #34 | |
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Official and specific repudiation of racists doctrines therefore won't occur until at least the Romney thing has played out, just as it was with his father (see DoM biography). |
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I'm happy about your father, but I'm sure he didn't have nearly the influence of ETB. |
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Not that a prophet has to be popular, but a lot of people ignored things he said. My dad thought too many of his ideas came from John Birchers. How many members do you think heeded the counsel, no woman in the work place.
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12-13-2007, 03:35 PM | #38 | |
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1. comments from prophet(s) over the pulpit that were overtly racists 2. comments from prophet not over pulpit but publicy made overtly racist 3. doctrines espoused with no basis in reality, overtly racist (multitude of shifting doctrines used to justify denying blacks the priesthood) "that's in the past" just doesn't cut it. |
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12-13-2007, 03:38 PM | #39 | |
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Sure it does. Maybe not for the press, or for you, but it should be for the believers.
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12-13-2007, 03:38 PM | #40 | |
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Remember, I don't buy the argument that everyone who opposed the civil rights bill was a racist. Some people thought it could be done a different way. |
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