If Obama goes negative...

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Here's the reason Obama can't go negative--he's the candidate of change, of bringing a different kind of politics. If he becomes the candidate who is bout winning, whatever it takes, then he no longer gets credit for a different kind of politics. And suddenly he is just any old candidate, but with a lot less experience and mettle.

He's in a box on this one. Just like with the surge. He has to claim the surge was a failure.

I agree with this.

[Tex]

Barack Obama yesterday:

Somebody asked John McCain, "How many houses do you have?" and he said, "I'm not sure, I'll have to check with my staff." True quote! "I'm not sure, I'll have to check with my staff."

Here's the "true" quote:

"I think - I'll have my staff get to you. It's condominiums where - I'll have them get to you."

Obama provides "true" quotes about like Cali Coug does.

This whole so-called gaffe is a complete loser. What a silly thing to go to full court press over. If Obama wants to compete in the "who's more elitist" contest, be my guest.

One thing this has invariably done is help take the sheen off the Messiah. Or maybe his supporters will just call this Cleansing the Temple.

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Here's the reason Obama can't go negative--he's the candidate of change, of bringing a different kind of politics. If he becomes the candidate who is bout winning, whatever it takes, then he no longer gets credit for a different kind of politics. And suddenly he is just any old candidate, but with a lot less experience and mettle.

I thought it wasn't going negative, it was all about "contrast".

You make a good point - this is why Obama needs to let MoveOn carry the negative load, then he can just be a little sluggish in telling them they need to cut it out, maybe even let the MSM play the commercial as they cover Obama's admonition to MoveOn to stop.

Besides that, if the change message resonates, McCain is at a disadvantage, as he's just another in a long line...

[UteStar]

Originally Posted by T Blue

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona for you.

Are you George Strait and if you are not, you should be ashamed of yourself for stealing his lines. the btw, I am hoping you are George Straight...

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by Tex

This whole so-called gaffe is a complete loser. What a silly thing to go to full court press over. If Obama wants to compete in the "who's more elitist" contest, be my guest.

One thing this has invariably done is help take the sheen off the Messiah. Or maybe his supporters will just call this Cleansing the Temple.

You really think nobody cares how many homes McCain owns or how much $$ the wife brought him when they wed?

(How many houses do you have, anyway?)

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

You really think nobody cares how many homes McCain owns or how much $$ the wife brought him when they wed?

(How many houses do you have, anyway?)

Obama made 4 million last year, I heard on NPR today. It was suggested his wife makes a bundle.

How many voters made 4 million last year? 1 million?

Obama can't win this one, because he's just as much the man as McCain.

At least McCain can argue he had a period of austerity in Hanoi, while Obama, at about the same age, was a druggie. Was he austere as a druggie?

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Obama made 4 million last year, I heard on NPR today. It was suggested his wife makes a bundle.

How many voters made 4 million last year? 1 million?

Obama can't win this one, because he's just as much the man as McCain.

At least McCain can argue he had a period of austerity in Hanoi, while Obama, at about the same age, was a druggie. Was he austere as a druggie?

Obama was raised by a single mom on welfare, a black man who has become successful. What a great example to many other Americans. Maybe the country really is ready to fully repudiate the bad parts of the past.

McCain... beyond the absolutely admirable status of a war hero in the 60s, has proven to be a womanizing opportunist, with a temper.

Besides all that... seven houses, or is it eight? OK, we'll go with the lower number.

SEVEN houses? He has no idea how most Americans live. Obama at least associates with and knows many Americans who only have one house.

[creekster]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

Obama was raised by a single mom on welfare, a black man who has become successful. What a great example to many other Americans. Maybe the country really is ready to fully repudiate the bad parts of the past.

McCain... beyond the absolutely admirable status of a war hero in the 60s, has proven to be a womanizing opportunist, with a temper.

Besides all that... seven houses, or is it eight? OK, we'll go with the lower number.

SEVEN houses? He has no idea how most Americans live. Obama at least associates with and knows many Americans who only have one house.

No one cares abotu this specific issue. It may result in helping to create a negative image or impression of McCain, but this particualr fact will not be a signficant factor in itself.

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

So, no, I think the Keating stuff would be a terrible move for Obama, which means of course that the dems will play it.

It's pretty far in the past, but the Keating fiasco would be most effectively played as just one of several issues, wrapped up in a single ad, part of a pattern.

"Wow, he really has been in Washington too long. That's typical Washington stuff, certainly".

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

Obama was raised by a single mom on welfare, a black man who has become successful. What a great example to many other Americans. Maybe the country really is ready to fully repudiate the bad parts of the past.

McCain... beyond the absolutely admirable status of a war hero in the 60s, has proven to be a womanizing opportunist, with a temper.

Besides all that... seven houses, or is it eight? OK, we'll go with the lower number.

SEVEN houses? He has no idea how most Americans live. Obama at least associates with and knows many Americans who only have one house.

weak. not going to sell. you should be able to do much better.

he has a temper? OH NO!!! RUN!!!!!!!