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Old 09-26-2008, 11:57 PM   #31
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1 million gooks died. Doesn't mean that the guys who killed the million gooks won.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:28 PM   #32
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I dont get it. Wasnt this supposed to be our Gettysburg? Does that make us Union forces? If so, then we should win this battle, not lose it.

Maybe this is really more our Battle of Chancellorsville.
I think the right analogy is Fredericksburg. The other side holds the high ground, in entrenched, and is slaughtering us as we cross an open field and try to climb the hill they are mowing us down from.

On the other hand, I have come to believe that there may be something noble, even in a losing effort (this is a reversal for me).

12 Yea, wo unto this great city of Zarahemla; for behold, it is because of those who are righteous that it is saved; yea, wo unto this great city, for I perceive, saith the Lord, that there are many, yea, even the more part of this great city, that will harden their hearts against me, saith the Lord.
13 But blessed are they who will repent, for them will I spare. But behold, if it were not for the righteous who are in this great city, behold, I would cause that fire should come down out of heaven and destroy it.

I'm not saying California is going to be destroyed by fire (although......) but sometimes it is critical for people to hold their ground even when the tide is against them. Even if you disagree with prop. 8 (and I have said I am glad it is only an academic question for me) hopefully members of the church can still admit that this could be what is happening here.
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:43 PM   #33
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And now the "For's" take back the lead

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Old 10-14-2008, 03:48 PM   #34
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Maybe the battle he was referring to was strictly limited to the church membership itself and on which side of the battle they would take.
You mean whether they choose the side that resorts to deception and misrepresentation?
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