10-26-2007, 08:41 PM | #41 | |
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The point is that we are asked to do things that are neither evil nor controversial by our prophet. In light of that, I think the leadership of our church, even beyond matters of simple faith, have established enough of a track record that obeying their counsel should neither be called blind, robotic or ignorant, nor predisposed to future debauchery and homicide. Rather, our obedience to the Prophet is a combination of faith and rationale, given their established track record of giving good counsel in the past. To make the laughable "logical" voyage from obeying counsel on such things as "being nice to the birdies", "voice your opinion to your elected officials", "everyone pays 10% tithing", "obey the laws of the land", "turn your hearts to Christ, not to armies and weapons" to becoming religious hitmen requires a vehicle fueled by one part paranoia and four parts cowdung. |
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10-26-2007, 08:42 PM | #42 |
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10-26-2007, 08:48 PM | #46 | |
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Indy is trying to split hairs and make it appear that he was only requested to voice his opinion on the matter (whatever that opinion may be) when clearly the church was advocating a position on the matter and he was punished for taking the opposite position. Indy's next claim (that he was terminated because his letter wasn't scholarly enough or well-written is laughable and a new low in apologia). |
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10-26-2007, 08:49 PM | #47 | |
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Once again your reading comprehension machine never even booted up this morning. |
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10-26-2007, 08:55 PM | #48 | |
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It is my observation that there are a great number of folks around here who think just as you do, who also get the benefit of the doubt you don't get because they are more readily willing to "show their work" so to speak. I think you can conclude anything around here by merely saying that it is the end result of some thinking on your part and that your recognize the ambiguity that exists in almost every question. I appreciate that there are some of you who feel the need to inject the party line in into what essentially is a thought exercise that assumes the party line and tries to approach it in a different way. It keeps the discussion honest. On the other hand, I think you are a smart enough guy to understand that much of the frustration with you and others stems from your desire to "change the subject" so to speak.
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10-26-2007, 08:59 PM | #49 |
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I think the most controversial thing the prophet has asked us to do.....hasn't happend yet, but *will* happen in our lifetimes.
I'm not sure what it will be. There will be a winnowing. And not necessarily in a way that some mullahs might think. |
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What I often find here are people straining mightily to come up with reasons, any reason, why the church is or was wrong in a given situation. So from my vantage point it appears the tension on this board often arises from a group that tries to find reasons why the Prophet is right and another group that tries to find why the Prophet was or could be wrong; and the former group, due to their lack of antagonism, gets labeled as not being able to think independently. |
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