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Perhaps his grandfather did know Joseph Smith, but he certainly knew Brigham Young.
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C'mon Tex, not tonight.
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01-28-2008, 04:53 AM | #43 |
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If I understand correctly, the First Presidency was immediately dissolved upon the death of the prophet, and its surviving members return to their chronological places in the Q12, which is, in order:
Monson Packer Perry Nelson Oaks Ballard Worthlin Scott Hales Holland Eyring Uchdorf Bednar Cook The brethren will prayerfully seek who the Lord wants to be set apart as the next President, which traditionally has been the senior apostle (though it could be someone else), and the most senior remaining apostle acts as the voice in setting him apart. Here, President Packer would set apart President Monson. Then the new President selects his counselors in the First Presidency, who do not have to be members of the Q12, nor does he have to select only two counselors, nor does he need to keep a previous counselor (Eyring). In fact, J. Reuben Clark was First Counselor under Heber J. Grant but later "moved down" to Second Counselor under David O. McKay. |
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I am very interested in who the new member of the 12 will be. Almost more than whom the counselors will be.
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01-28-2008, 05:39 AM | #47 |
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Yeah, but presently there are 14 people for 12 spots. And since the office of Apostle is a life-long calling, I don't think any "extra" members would be released from the quorum for the sake of numbers. It would be like the Big 10 conference.
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01-28-2008, 01:21 PM | #49 |
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I'm not sure why people are picking Packer. I guess they're too young to remember back when the successor was not normally in the First Presidency.
I don't think Packer stands any chance of being selected as a counselor. I think he'll remain the President of the 12, minus the "Acting" title now.
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I think the biggest challenge facing the church is the same challenge they've been facing for a long time, but only worse today.
Political Correctness.
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